JackHandy said:
Yes, but those people don't steer the ship. |
In fairness, the ones steering the ship are the ones that have been at Bungie for over 20 years now, Lol. Pete Parsons (CEO), has been with Bungie since 2002, Jason Jones (CVO) was a co-founder of Bungie alongside Alex and is still there. Alex founded Bungie but left a long time ago in 2004 so doesn't really apply to this scenario of Bungie losing all their veterans in recent history.
People saying "Bungie lost all their veteran talent" are kind of missing the point, it is their veteran talent currently dragging them down and this is nothing new, Bungie's management issues have existed since Halo days, the only difference between then and now is that Halo was beloved and so people conveniently ignored all their issues, Destiny 2 is more mixed lately and Marathon is being dragged hard so people are finally recognising Bungie's management issues, but again, absolutely nothing new.
There's whole articles about how awful Halo's development was, Destiny also had issues, especially with the engine being a bag of shite. Not to say veterans aren't worth anything but in Bungie's case, veterans are the issue. Now I wouldn't be opposed to some Bungie veterans coming back to take over, like Joseph Staten, but he might not want to after all his work on Destiny 1 was cut which resulted in him leaving.
I think people put way too much stock in veterans though, all studios in the industry will eventually lose all their veterans, we all age, Lol. Doesn't mean every studio in the industry is going to collapse, because that old talent will be replaced by new talent, as has happened since the start of the industry. Some veteran talent are still good, some are quite frankly washed up and haven't produced anything of note in years, it can't be a broad brush of "all veterans = good" or "no veteran talent = studio has no talent" and people can often join a studio because they're a fan of their work, a fan of the studio, they work under the veteran talent of the studio, they care just as much about the studio, then they become the new veterans.
Either way, Bungie is still a huge name, so VAMatt is correct, saying "they're only Bungie in name. The people who made the OG Halo trilogy are gone." is not going to be relevant to the vast majority of people because the vast majority of people pay absolutely zero attention to who is or isn't still at a studio and quite frankly, it's only really the gaming industry where this much attention is paid to who still remains at a company. But yeah, the Bungie name alone will guarantee a decent amount of interest.
Won't help post-launch success if it's mid though.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 31 May 2025
