Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[Ryuu96]

shavenferret said:

Ryuu96 said:

Trump's going to ring up Zelenskyy and tell him the amazing news, hockey matches are back on between America and Russia!

Such an amazing negotiator, surrendered Putin a dozen concessions and Putin still managed to whittle his ceasefire proposal down to even less than what he originally proposed, Lmao. And this isn't a comment about whether a full ceasefire is a good thing or not but a comment on how fucking terrible Trump's negotiation skills are, he's either the biggest moron on the planet or a Russian asset. Russia's oil facilities are saved by Trump, whilst Russia is still allowed to bomb Ukrainian civilians but hey, at least Russia can't bomb Ukraine's energy facilities now, in the fucking Spring, Lol.

It would seem that Ukraine has came out ahead in this, quite surprisingly.  They don't have to agree to a ceasfire, and will continue to get American aid.  I don't see the problem at all.  

Also, i have never seen America complain at all about the drone/missle attacks on russian refineries.  

All things considered it's not as bad as it could have been, but it's just more embarrassing how pathetic Trump looks, I mean, after offering Russia a dozen concessions, some already issued and some being considered, Trump's original proposal of a ceasefire across the frontline has been whittled down by Putin to a ceasefire on energy infrastructure. So in Europe we have Putin rejecting Trump's ceasefire and in the Middle-East we have Trump's other ceasefire completely collapsing.

I think Ukraine will agree to it if only to keep Trump "happy" but I do believe this proposal still benefits Russia more than Ukraine, as Russia's main tactics on energy infrastructure is to hurt civilians and demoralise the country, this tactic is best employed during Winter when Ukraine hits freezing temperatures, now they're in Spring it makes Putin accepting this "concession" a lot easier and appear to Trump as being reasonable, when the true reason he is accepting it is because Ukraine is absolutely hammering the shit out of Russia's oil facilities, which is hammering their economy and their ability to perform military operations.

But at least it wasn't Trump saying "I agree with Putin, Ukraine should dismantle their entire army!" Lol.

This ceasefire idea benefits Russia more than Ukraine in this moment in time though, if it was still Winter then it would maybe be a different argument because a lot more civilians lives would be at risk. Either way, Russia will still target and kill Ukrainian civilians, they just won't attack energy infrastructures...Apparently.

Ideally Ukraine should reject it and keep hitting Russia's oil facilities but Ukraine has to please the orange baby too.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 18 March 2025