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Ryuu96 said:

Shaunodon said:

Maybe it didn't sound positive, but the initial thing I said about Avowed was it would have been good if it was actually marketed and sold for what it was-- an action-adventure game with some nice exploration and streamlined gameplay. And it should have been priced correctly to fit that. The main problem was they never addressed the early expectations for the game and just quietly released it thinking people would somehow re-adjust those expectations on their own.

The only thing I believed as fact is that Avowed wouldn't do well and that the ongoing sentiment would be poor. I wanted people to enjoy the game despite that. Even though I found it disappointing I still had some fun with it. Can you really tell me with a straight face you believe it's a success? If so, that's fine. Xbox won't give us any hard numbers so there's nothing more to even say there.

There's some games I'm excited for, sure. It's not that they're going to PS5 that bothers me; the likes of DOOM, Oblivion, Tony Hawk and the later Ninja Gaiden games were already third-party titles to begin with, even if they're published by Xbox now. I didn't buy an Xbox just to play those or I wouldn't have bought one. If they have some Final Fantasy ports on the way to fill the gaps, then obviously that would be great, but those rumours have been circling for a while now without anything concrete. Do you even remember how far into this generation we are?

Unless you're an avid GamePass user, Xbox isn't for you or me. There's nothing wrong with GamePass either, just that if I knew that was the only reason for owning an Xbox, I wouldn't. I'm pretty sure others, even some active GamePass users, wish that wasn't the case either.

Maybe that reality was accepted much earlier by others than me. I just hoped they were still trying even if it's too late.

It wasn't about it sounding positive or negative, it was simply how it was framed, as I said it came across like you was enforcing your opinion as the only true opinion and then you stretched it to "doom" other Xbox releases, it came across like "Avowed sucks, Xbox never learns, their future RPGs are doomed" Lol.

What you said just now was framed better, although I still very much disagree that Avowed isn't an RPG, it is as much of an RPG as The Outer Worlds, The Elder Scrolls, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, etc. I also disagree that they didn't address expectations, they repeatedly said this wasn't The Elder Scrolls and was more in line with The Outer Worlds, that it wasn't a massive RPG.

You believed Avowed wouldn't do well and the sentiment would be poor based on a few days worth of data, which told us nothing about sales/players and was far from poor with overall player reception in those few days, it was a shaky declaration of fact to make with such little data and so early its life. I do believe Avowed will/is a success but I can't state that as a fact with such little data, though Obsidian straight up said they're happy with the performance thus far and that's all we really have to go on, you may say "of course they'll say that" but it also performed in line with The Outer Worlds on Steam which was another success, it is charting well in TA and Circana and RPGs tend to have nice legs.

The Final Fantasy rumours I'm speaking about come from Nate who has an incredible track record and straight up said FF16 is releasing this year on Xbox and FF7R will follow (I forgot if he said this year or next year for FF7R) so it's simply a case of being patient. Then after these come, it's very likely that future FF's will also release day one on Xbox, just like the next Silent Hill will.

I'll briefly translate/summarise what you're saying:

-Fable is totally fine. It's just my forced opinion that we should be worried about it.
-Avowed is actually doing quite well. Both Obsidian and the franchise should have a stable future.
-Final Fantasy games will all be making their way within the next year or so.

Alright then. I may see things differently but it's not because I want these games or the Xbox brand to fail, so I sincerely hope you're right on every account. As far as leaks I don't really follow them so I'll take your word on that.