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SvennoJ on 04 March 2025
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Azzanation said:
SvennoJ said:

The good old, embrace, extend, extinguish.

MS tried, embraced the console market with the XBox, extended with XBox Live, tried to extinguish competitors with Gamepass and buying up publishers. It didn't work and now MS is flailing. They can't hit hard since too many people enjoy Nintendo and Sony games. MS can only shoot themselves in the foot as we see happening now.

Your peanuts cost $240 a year and lose access to everything if you stop paying. PSN is now $80 a year, 2 full price games to keep forever a year to balance it out. Reality is, most people don't play a lot of games, they play a few online games a lot.



"Forth point: literally waiting years to play old games while paying premium prices for early access is not a W you think it is."

That's what XBox is right now. Waiting years to play old Sony games on PC, while paying a premium subscription for early access of MS games.

Meanwhile if you wait a few months, games are much cheaper, further finished and less buggy.

People are not buying Xboxes to play PS games, if that's what they want then they clearly made the wrong choice in life.

I wouldnt want to wait 6 months or years to play the next Halo or Gears, the secruity of Xbox is you are garenteed these games at launch and not second guessing if the game will come and when.

Any game you purchase digitally you don't technically own, the only difference here is GP charges you $240 a year where otherwise you are paying $500 plus a year and not including the Online subscription. Huge difference.

There are a lot more people making 'the wrong choice' in life rather than chase after Gears and Halo...
 
Halo has proven it's better to wait 6 months (or more) before playing it. Don't need guaranteed beta testing games at launch early access. Buying / playing games at launch is at your own peril nowadays. (I still do it to support devs that make good games, but then wait to play them until the patches have settled)

Any games you purchase digitally are (99.9% of the cases) never removed from your ability to re-download them. Physical you can even resell or buy 2nd hand for much less than $240 a year. Then there are plenty FTP online games you don't need to pay online subscription for. You can just buy the console and play those forever without spending another dime. (Including Halo Infinite Multiplayer)


Anyway if you enjoy the games on GamePass and nothing else then that's indeed the best value. Reality is, 87% of the market enjoy other games that are not on GamePass. 150 million Switch, 75 million PS5, 34 million GamePass subscribers (year old number, can't find more recent)