| Darc Requiem said: @Pemalite Could AMD opt for similar solution to their FSR4 issue as Intel does with XESS? A fall back solution that could run on non RDNA4 hardware, It would be better than FSR3 but not as good as RDNA4's FSR4 due to the lack of hardware? |
Absolutely no reason why that couldn't be the case... Comes down to resources in the end. - Keep in mind the game "Control" used DLSS 1.9 on release which was done on nVidia's CUDA cores and could theoretically operate on GTX cards. (Eventually updated to version 2.0 which used the tensor cores.)
GCN and RDNA have a ton of compute resources, it's just not the precision or type of compute that's optimal for deep learning... With the exception of RDNA2 which supports various low-precision data types such as INT4 and INT8... Graphics Core Next most notably AMD Vega can do INT8.
In the end it's a compute issue...
But AMD's fallback is FSR3... It's probably not worth their time and money making another fork of FSR for older cards, AMD has limited resources and needs to use those limited resources to compete with nVidia.
Rather... AMD will likely roll their FSR4 into ROCm which is AMD's competitor to CUDA, which has deep learning support included now... And it's open source, so modders will likely do the heavy lifting.
And with ROCm supporting UXL which has the backing of: Intel, Google, Arm, Qualcomm, Samsung, Imagination, and VMware I am hoping development for ROCm becomes significantly larger and more mature to compete with CUDA.
Deep Learning and Ray Tracing is still in it's infancy, lots of development is going to happen in these spaces over the next few years.
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In saying that... You could just run XESS on AMD's cards anyway.
Or... And this may become a thing in the future... NPU add-ons for deep learning.
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/lenovo-showcases-a-usb-c-connected-ai-stick-with-a-32-tops-npu-on-board
AMD could theoretically use that for FSR4 and make it compatible with everything, even a 3dfx Voodoo 2 12MB from 1998 on Windows 98. Haha (I can dream)
| Chazore said: I actually want them to abandon the gaming market, because I've only recently realised that the entire time they have been in the gaming market, they've slowly fucked it up along the way, from pricing to expectations to pulling the rug, taking most of the market share and then gutting backward compat support with certain technologies. I feel like they've done more damage to PC gaming over the long-term, compared to AMD and their open source approach. It's also very clear to us now that Nvidia really doesn't give a shit about the games market, because they keep pushing those charts where data centers are above and beyond, and their current and only focus is AI, Ai, AI. They don't actually have any aspect of gaming left in them as a company. They flat out do not respect nor care for the PC side of the games industry, which is why I want them to fuck off. If you don't care for the craft, get out of the kitchen. |
Gamers actually voted for this with their wallets.
It's the consumers who enabled nVidia.
And this is partly the reason why I have primarily purchased AMD GPU's for the last decade, purely out of price/performance.
Obviously you have people cry "The drivers are bad" - But honestly, it's been such a non-issue.
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