| only777 said: 5) A rather long point, but important. Sony/Nintendo/Xbox sell their consoles at a loss or break even because they make the money back on game sales. This is the current business model and why consoles are cheap to buy considering the bill of materials to make them. |
It's no longer just about game sales.
It's about DLC, it's about subscriptions, it's about advertising, it's about services, it's about accessories.
| only777 said: If Microsoft release yet another console, same sort of Spec as PS5 Pro/PS6 we know its going to bomb hard, and I'm sure Microsoft know this. |
Microsoft and Sony are tied to AMD technology.
AMD is a laggard in the graphics space currently... But extremely competent in the CPU space.
But there is a massive focus on generative A.I. And that is where we are going to see the "biggest leap ever". - Think about generative A.I that can increase polygons, increase resolution, increase framerates, increase details, increase texture resolution all at the same time.
And this is where the biggest investment in GPU technology is currently... And this is what Sony and AMD started to plan for with the Playstation 5 Pro... It's just a taste of what is to come over the next couple of years.
As for the success or failure, nothing is set in stone yet... Let's not make assumptions before the console has even been unveiled yet.
Many thought the Switch was going to be a failure once the WiiU bombed... And look how that turned out.
| only777 said: I really doubt a handheld device is really a viable business for Microsoft. If they can't get people to buy their home console, why would someone buy their handheld over a Switch 2 or Steamdeck? Also it's worth noting that even the Steamdeck has only sold around 5 million units. |
Clearly Microsoft isn't going for a "single device fits all" strategy here, that trajectory has been clear for years.
Microsoft approach is "many platforms, one software".
As for the Steamdeck, you need to remember the Steamdeck is competing with another dozen devices like the ROG Ally, Legion Go and more. - The Steamdeck is also not subsidized.
Do we collectively include the sales of all Portable PC's? Or just single out a single device? If that's the case, why shouldn't we exclude the Switch Lite and OLED from switch sales? Or PS5 Pro/Xbox Series X from Playstation 5/Series S sales?
It's the overall platform that matters... For example, Alienware might only sell a few million gaming PC's, but that's not representative of the entire gaming PC market. It's still a PC platform.
It's the platform that actually matters.
| only777 said: I think if they are smart they will create a new market; a premium console market. |
I hope they have a device that caters for every market.
Why only put a few apples in one basket when you can have an apple in every basket?
We are all gamers here, we all like different games... And we even like all different platforms, there is literally nothing wrong with that.
| only777 said: This way, they can make a profit on the hardware sold rather than on games, because lets face it, they are not making money on Xbox games. |
Didn't Microsoft's gaming division just post the most money they have ever made?
| Wman1996 said: I agree. |
Hardware tends to get cheaper over time. The Xbox Series X/Playstation 5 are built on archaic 7nm technology. - Respun at "6nm".
Newer chips built at smaller fabrications processors should allow for tangible increases in capability.
But there is also the added capability that generative A.I is enabling, this is the biggest paradigm shift in graphics rendering we have ever seen since the transition from 2D to 3D.
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