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shikamaru317 said:

Shaunodon said:

There's nothing wrong with enjoying it for what it is. But you can also admit when it's not good enough for how long people have waited, how high the expectations originally were or what people originally wanted it to be. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm not telling people to hate the game. Only why it's not going to do well and why we should be concerned about other similar franchises. Why shouldn't that be talked about?

Personally the only thing I ever saw people wishing it to be was an Elder Scrolls holdover game while Bethesda continues to take their sweet time making TES 6. Obsidian themselves shot down those expectations pretty early in development, making it clear to anyone expecting Avowed to be to Skyrim what Fallout NV was to Fallout 3, that that wasn't going to happen, that they were making a smaller RPG with a much smaller dev team than modern AAA's usually have, which would differentiate itself from Skyrim instead of trying to be Skyrim 2.0.

The reason development took so long was not because they were spending time making some very high end AAA masterpiece, the reason for the long dev cycle (2018-2025) was that the game was rebooted in like late 2020, where the director changed from Chris Parker (Alpha Protocol, South Park TSoT) to Carrie Patel (director of The Outer Worlds DLC's), and the darker gritty tone that the initial reveal teased gave way to a more colorful take on the game. If people were expecting some high end AAA masterpiece due to the long development cycle I'm sure they are disappointed in the final product, but I personally knew about the reboot on the game from Jez leaks since like 2022, so I was expecting what we got, a game with only around 4 years of development post reboot with a small 100ish person dev team. 

Yup. I'm not sure if Obsidian themselves even said it was meant to be their take on Elder Scrolls, I think it was that twat Chris Avellone who leaked it and said that, I think he said Chris Parker wanted to do a take on Elder Scrolls. For years, Obsidian rammed it down peoples throats that it is nothing like Elder Scrolls and not their take on Elder Scrolls and set expectations very clearly.

Chris Parker got shuffled off, Carrie took over, it was rebooted, it was also rebooted because the original Avowed pitch had MULTIPLAYER in it...Now I imagine that would have pissed off people a lot, Lol. So people wishing for the "original" Avowed should be careful what they wish for, they're wishing for original Avowed based solely on a 15 second CGI trailer with no other information.

And even the change in art-style was appreciated by Pillars of Eternity fans because The Living Lands is straight up described as colourful and vibrant in the lore, not a dead skeleton wasteland fort, Lol. I even saw Pillars fans pushing back on the art-style change criticism by saying that Pillars 2 is vibrant and colourful as well at times.

I think the issue is people think/thought colourful = not serious but that's not the case at all.

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