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Ryuu96 said:

Shaunodon said:

I don't have a circle. I just find whoever's talking about a product and keep listening if they seem like a sensible person. I'm not even subbed to most of these channels. The last one I'd never even seen before but the video just popped up randomly in my recommendations. So you're saying all these people are just rage-baiting bigots:

Those are all the reviews I listened to so far. And just like me, all of them tried their best to find positive aspects to talk about. But just like me, they were all generally disappointed and whelmed by the game.

If you think this is a strong start for a game that was teased way back at the start of the generation as a potential system selling title, I don't know what to tell you.

No, I do not believe those are all rage-baiting bigots, but I do believe you're picking and choosing what to see so you can express fake outrage. You've posted a bunch of YouTubers who disliked the game, I've posted just as many, if not more, people who loved the game in this very thread, but those are ignored by yourself and only the YouTubers that have popped up in your recommendations count.

I can find positive aspects to talk about easy, as can many others, but we aren't going round like "Avowed is the best thing ever! Better than everything else! Our opinions are the only things that matter!" like you are trying to do with a select few YouTubers. You came in dooming the shit out of the game, comparing it to every other game, telling them how much they've failed and quite frankly, your criticism wasn't even well presented.

Yes, I do believe Avowed has got solid reviews (that's...a fact), and a solid reception from users, I do not know the full extent of its performance yet, but the charts are showing positive signs, Imo. I don't really see how when it was revealed has any relevance, videogames are revealed years in advance all the time now, can hardly avoid it.

And you can't just slap "It was meant to be a system seller so it's a failure" to every title, how many systems was it meant to sell? What score does something need to hit to be a system seller? How much mass market appeal does something need to have to be a system seller? Even some videogames which sell tens of millions I wouldn't exactly call system sellers, even some video games which critic in the 90s I wouldn't call system sellers. It's a useless description to dismiss every game as a failure because it didn't push an arbitrary amount of consoles.

The only sources I saw you reference were ResetEra which I ignore on reflex and steam reviews for a game that's been out proper for not even two whole days.

Of course I only bothered to use some reviews I found on YouTube for now because they're the only ones who actually played through the game. Outside of that the only reference is my own honest experience.

It's not like I came here to make a professional critique. I figured I was just pointing out the obvious situation that's unfolding right now. But most people here don't agree with it. So when it turns out to be a failure in 'hindsight' and Fable doesn't learn from it's mistakes, I wonder who we can blame at that point, since we can't even agree with what's truly a failure right now.