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Shaunodon said:
Ryuu96 said:

Half the complaints were "It doesn't do anything new" which can be applied to dozens of games, even ones which hit the 90s and would have also been able to have been applied to "Pillars of Eternity III but AAA" Lol. It's a criticism I find baffling but oh well. There were A LOT of people who loved Avowed but it was just those who really didn't like it dragging the overall average down.

It's better than The Outer Worlds Imo and the RPG Aspects/Dialogue feels better too but The Outer Worlds is rated higher.

Think it's also funny to use Kingdom Come II to try to drag Avowed when Kingdom Come I sits at 72 Opencritic and only 3% higher on Steam. It's like, yeah, Kingdom Come II learnt how to improve from Kingdom Come I and Baldur's Gate 3 (based on Dungeons & Dragons), learnt to improve on the past two entries. But fuck Avowed for not hitting 90%+ in the first entry in its franchise amirite?

It boggles my mind. Game is great, a solid start for a new franchise, it has received a strong reception from critics and players, now the only way is up for future entries which aren't bogged down by mid-development reboots, the gameplay is nailed and they've introduced people to the world of Eora, now is time to expand the lore even further.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/462982/kingdom-come-deliverance-sales-top-8-million-units/

You must have forgotten this is a sales website.

Now remember that Kingdom Come was a first time project from a small team in Czech on a kickstarter budget. It got review bombed by some biased critics, yet the positive receptions from actual gamers helped it surge to a huge success.

Avowed is not a first time project from some new studio from nowhere. They had more than enough resources to do better. It's critic score and steam rating will all innevitably go down, as most feedback is already trending negatively.

You went from "Avowed sucks. Everyone hates it. Doom. They didn't learn a thing. Why didn't they do as good as Kingdom Come II" but when I point out Kingdom Come I's reception, you switch to "You can't use a gamer reception argument like I did because Kingdom Come I sold well" You accuse Kingdom Come of being review bombed by biased critics, those same critics gave the sequel glowing reviews, Lol. 

Kingdom Come I sits at 83% on Steam, by your same logic as Avowed, everyone hates it.

Avowed is not from a new studio, no. But it is from a new director, to most people Avowed would be seen as a new IP. There's not much they could have taken from Pillars to apply to Avowed aside from the lore. So by your same logic, Obsidian did a better job than Warhorse Studios in their first attempt at creating a new franchise and by all accounts, it is a solid release.

Obsidian has made clear, they don't want to work with massive budgets or massive teams.

Let em create solid entries like Avowed and The Outer Worlds. Not every developer on the planet has to reinvent the wheel to be a success.