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Sephiran on 16 February 2025
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Kyuu said:
killer7 said:

Quite easy. MS would get a headstart of 2 years (Xbox 360 anyone?) Nintendo will have 3 years. Remember what happened with PS3? This is a risc Sony will not want! Also if  Switch really runs as good as many people predicting it could be a record breaking launch! Add in the fact that the MS/ Activision contract includes all Activision games for Nintendo systems for 10 years but only COD for Playstation, does bring some riscs. Nintendo is basically guaranteed to get all Activision games for 10 years. It could be that Sony gets more but the contract only saves COD for them. If the Switch 2 becomes THE mobile device for 3rd parties AND the Nintendo games (MK, Smash, Zelda, Pokémon, Metroid, Kirby...)+ former Xboy exclusives like Halo, Forza, Gears... AND has physical games (PS6 will likley be digital only) that won't be nothing and it must be taken into account by Sony. Just saying "Nintendo is no competition" like some vgchartz users shout is no solution! The industry sees them in competition. Also consider the fact that Sony ports their games to PC and Nintendo does not. Xbox is a lot smaller than it used to be but its far from a nobody! Sony cannot just do what they like and get an easy win! We saw this in gen 7, we somehow see it in Gen 9 (vs Switch) and YES i am comparing Switch directly with PS5 and Xbox! See what i mean?

@Kyuu

A full next gen system (PS or Xbox) will be a good chunk more powerfull than last gen. If Sony/ MS decides to make a next gen only experience, this gens graphics will be a childs birthday. You cannot rely on that everything gets cross gen releases.

The past, without studying the circumstances, is literally irrelevant. X360 was a powerful console that launched cheap in a time where generations meant something. It was the better designed system than the overpriced PS3 with its complicated architecture and trash GPU, and had a more or less equally strong library of exclusives including 1st party titles. PS2 was still selling extremely well, and Sony's playerbase was divided between 3 consoles (PS2, PS3 and PSP). Kinect also gave X360 a temprary boost in late years. Did the headstart contribute to its success? Absolutely, but it was one of multiple factors that helped it gain popularity and momentum. Dreamcast had a 16 month headstart and look how that went. Every console has their unique circumstances, and current Xbox doesn't really have much going for it. Truth be told, even Sony may struggle to convince PS5 gamers to upgrade quickly to PS6. Generations are inerhently weaker now.

In the past, consoles got mutiple pricerops going as low as 40%~ of the original price, whereas nowadays prices are going up. In the past, Microsoft was open to losing hundreds of dollars per console sold, now they're making it known that they have no intention to do the same going forward. A 2026 Xbox with no exclusives will generate no excitement whatsoever, it is evident that Microsoft is primarily a 3rd party publisher now.


In the unlikely scenario where Microsoft out of nowhere decides to challenge Playstation by removing ABK support (which is why Sony tried everything they could to sabotage the ABK acquisition), nothing Sony does will make a difference, a 2026 or 2027 PS6 launch solves nothing. Playstation and ABK would both be damaged.

Switch 2 won't be of much more relevance to Sony than the Switch 1 was outside Japan.

PS6 won't be digital only. But yes, they obviously can't do whatever they want. If they conclude that PC support hurts their hardware sales, they can choose to pull the plug. Hardware is their bread and butter, and their own 1st party software only serves to help sustain the popularity of the platform.

Why wouldn't the Switch 2 be relevant for PS in US and Europe? Popular Nintendo consoles sell tens of millions of units in the US and Europe, they are very much relevant in other countries other than Japan.