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SanAndreasX said:

Virtua Fighter is more of an example of a good game that got overshadowed. It was the pioneer in 3-D fighting and insanely popular in Japan. The original Tekken was largely a pale imitation. Virtua Fighter 2 > Tekken 2, even though the latter had definitely improved. Tekken 3 is where Tekken started to pull ahead, mostly because Sega never did release a Saturn version of VF3 and the late port for Dreancasr got overshadowed by SoulCalibur. VF got hamstrung by being tied to Sega hardware especially since the Saturn failed in the West. Tekken got a big boost by being the PlayStation’s signature fighting series. 

It’s too bad Sega didn’t capitalize more on its PlayStation debut. Tekken 4 was not a good game, while Virtua Fighter 4 was amazing. In a just world, Tekken should have been the also-ran. 

Tekken 1 and 2 were more a sister series to Virtua Fighter than imitations, because they were made by Virtua Fighter's co-creator. It's similar in a sense to Everybody's Golf vs Mario Golf.

I wouldn't call Tekken 4 a mediocre game but I agree that it's one of the weaker entries in the series as opposed to VF4 being one of the best fighting games ever. Sad what happened to the series, was probably a mistake that they made VF4 a PS2 exclusive, but Sega was weird with their exclusivity choices. As weird as Altus is today. They threw their games around randomly and hoped something sticked. In their defence though, they had no experience developing games on other platforms.

It might have beaten DoA as Xbox's main fighting game. Fingers crossed the upcoming VF is successful enough to coexist with Tekken. But I'm not sure Yakuza's studio can pull that off...

Leynos said:
Salnax said:

People talk about Cross all the time. VF got a huge reaction to the new one. Vagrant gets YT vids all the time about it in retro circles.

Chrono Cross and Vagrant Story are still often mentioned as two of PS1's best games. But Cross is divisive due to being very different from Trigger. Everyone would have remembered it more fondly if it were an original title.

Three quick picks of mine:

1. GTA4 gotta be the most overrated game of all time per consensus.

2. I loved MGS4 but it's obviously seen as the tied weakest entry in the main series.

3. The Elder Scrolls Oblivion seems to have gotten reduced to a memes, but maybe I'm wrong and the original fans still hail it. It's just beyond me how this and GTA4 scored in the high 90's. There are some things in the world you're never meant to understand lol.