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Runa216 said:
JRPGfan said:

Alot (I reckon most people) of people don't want this normalized. 

Its happended so often, that theres inserted trans focus, that happend to be bad, that people are now totally offput by any of it.
And its killing game sales.  Its also both poorly written, and likely also poorly written because its out of place, trans representation.

Bioware is probably going to go under, because they choose to go full on woke representation.
The thing is, trans people probably make up like 0.1% of the population (even less than parts of the LGBTA+)
If something is offputting to like 90% of the population that arn't LGTBA, and you make it a focus of your game..... its gonna sell poorly.
Which is fine... as a developer or programmer, as long as your okay with your game doing poorly.

This right here is pretty much exactly why I am so exhausted by this entire discussion. You outright are saying 'diversity is bad' and 'trans people shouldn't be represented'. You aren't even being subtle about it. for all intents and purposes you're saying that trans people should shut up and know their place and...not sure if you've been paying attention but history will not look back fondly upon you and others who say things like that. 

You'd have to be blind or ignorant or outright unwilling to accept the truth if you don't see where the world is headed and where we're going. Sorry bub, as time goes on, and we understand more about psychology and adapt to change, stuff like asking for a person's pronouns will be normalized. because it should. Resisting that change is admitting you just don't think trans people deserve respect or are too lazy to learn something incredibly simple. because it ain't hurting anyone (Fact) and more options for people to feel comfortable and happy is a good thing (Fact). 

Also you're pretty fucking far off the mark if you genuinely think 'woke' games fail. or if you think progressive themes are hurting the industry. That's just not the reality we live in. The only thing that it's hurting is your ego because you don't WANT it to be successful because 'ewww icky girl with a penis, I don't want that'.

Again if you google like "woke games 2024", you ll get stuff like:

Forspoken, xdefiant , Concord, Unknown 9 - awakening, Dragon Age - veilguard, Dustborn, Suicide Squad, ....

Maybe they had other issues, but these were all "branded" as really woke games, that then went on to do poorly.

Yes I legit think, all this stuff inserted into games, are hurting them.


You *might* have the self claimed moral high ground here, because "its a good thing" as you say.... however I think alot of the general public just arn't for it.
And yes, I think its hurting game sales.


Like I think the next Assasins Creed, Shadows.... might also be one of the last of its kinde.
(ubisoft is also doing badly atm, and they went really woke, with the next AC game) 

Do you think AC Shadows will go on to sell better than typical? because it now has a gay black character, as one of the 2 playable main characters in the game?


Last edited by JRPGfan - 3 days ago