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the-pi-guy 2 days ago
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bdbdbd said:

But the horrible things justified by religion are just morals of the religion. They are doing good according to their moral. Moral is just the set of rules to follow. The less rules you have, the less moral you have. High moral is following the rules closely and low moral not following them. 

Having more rules doesn't make someone more moral. 

The number of rules someone has is arbitrary. One person could have 1 rule that just says be kind to people, someone else might have 500 rules to describe what that actually means. They're both doing the same thing, they're just describing their rules differently. 

Additionally, I don't think anyone would argue that having 500 rules about how to eat pancakes makes that person more moral. 

Religion can inform people of rules, but it's not why people have rules. 

People have rules because they're intelligent. Empathy has a neurological component. People aren't empathetic because religion tells them to be, they are because their brain is wired that way (and some people have issues when their brain isn't wired that way).

bdbdbd said:

People don''t want the same things, but people follow a religion that has it's own dogmas. They follow the dogmas, the teachings that are not allowed to be questioned. You can't be a christian without believing in Jesus (well, technically anyone who's ever been christened is a christian, no matter if you leave the religion or adopt a new one, but I think you know what I meant). 

Sure, and there's lots of variability in what parts have to be followed.

Some Christians believe their religion to be a private affair. Some Christians believe their religion pushes them to get other people to be Christians.

A lot of Christians just think people should be left alone. 

That's my point. You can't be a Christian without having some belief in Jesus, but there's huge variability in whether Christians want to live in a religious state or not. There are some that would give their lives to make that happen, and there are some who would give their lives to prevent it from happening.