| epicurean said: Joel was fighting to save someone's life, Abby was fighting to kill someone for revenge. I dont get this opinion at all. Abby was at the very least, just as evil as Joel. Imagine Abby asking why her dad had to die... "Oh, he was going to murder a little girl in order to try and save humanity. And they weren't going to tell her." Not quite as straight forward as "Bad man went on murder spree."Â Maybe its the dad in me speaking, but what was great about the ending of the first game was how much I struggled with what I would've done in the same circumstance. When someone tries to harm one of your kids (I know, technically not his kid, but she became one to him) you'll do pretty much anything to save them. And after he had already watched his actual daughter get shot in cold blood? This "evil Joel" narrative is weird to me. Obviously murdering a ton of people is wrong, but to him, he was just trying to save one. What was Abby's motivation again? |
That's conveniently forgetting Joel was smuggling the girl to the Fireflies to 'honor' the dying wish of Marlene. He could have not brought her there after he grew attached to Ellie. He put her in that situation in the first place, without first finding out about the risks. Would you as a father leave your kid at the hospital without being informed thoroughly about all the risks? We're hesitant of any procedure that requires sedation as there's always a risk.
If he was trying to save Ellie, why bring her to the hospital at all. He continuously put her and himself in dangerous situation. What was his motivation to continue with the mission?
Abby's motive is just as strong. Seeing your father brutally murdered at age 16 / 17 leaves a mark. And you know how reactionary teenagers are.
"Evil Joe" chose to put Ellie in danger, then went on a murder spree trying to undo his 'mistake'.
"Evil Abby" was traumatized by the death of her father and vowed to bring the culprit to justice. Note she only killed Joel, no collateral damage at that point like Joel killing everyone along the way.
Abby's dad had his own moral dilemma, being pretty sure Ellie wouldn't survive the procedure. But what would you do if that's the last hope for humanity and everyone you care about. The Last of Us is a dying world, there's no coming back as long as the virus is around. Resources are dwindling, last stands continue to fall. Jackson city won't last. They already couldn't afford to send out a vigilante party, hence Tommy running off alone to avenge his brother, then reluctantly letting Ellie go to go save Tommy.
In the end the decision was up to Ellie. No one ever gave her the choice, which is the real crime and why she declared "we're done" to Joel after forcing him to confirm what he did at the hospital. But of course with conflicting emotions since she still wanted revenge for his death next to going after Tommy. But what did she have left to live for, watch everyone slowly die around her from the infection while being immune. That's some heavy survivor's guilt she's carrying.
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