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konnichiwa said:

It isn't Ironic, when was the last time you played a game that felt like conservative game or right winged? The last game I can remember that was called Racist was Resident Evil V because the zombies in the African country were black..

Meanwhile you have games like hogwarts Legacy getting attacked because the author of the books said something they don't like....
Stellar blade getting attacked because they dare to have a sexy actractive female as MC and men should not like those kind of women
Black Myth Wukong devs getting attacked because of a leaked email that showed some misbehaving of the devs but anyone who translate the email
could clearly see their was nothing wrong it was extremely vile what she did (think she got fired today Kat bailey?).

Hogwarts Legacy could be construed as having conservative undertones considering you are unquestioningly supporting an oppressive status quo and the presence of thinly veiled antisemitism.
And it's not because of the Author being anti-trans either.

Bioshock has conservative thematics with it's totalitarian Regime and cultist rhetoric portrayed in the games.

Postal, Call of Duty with it's nationalism, Tom Clancy also with it's nationalism.

Call of Juarez: The Cartel misrepresented human trafficking and had a level where you win an achievement for killing black people.

Red Faction: Guerrilla revolves around starting a grassroots revolution to overthrow an exploitative tyrannical government that was in league with industrialists and big business.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution is set in a world where unrestrained Capitalism has control.


Mass Effect is also a game set in a world governed by runaway capitalist abuse.

I think you will find you have actually analyzed the video game market appropriately to determine whether a game has progressive or conservative underpinnings and just jumped on a false narrative.

konnichiwa said:

DA is like the Saints Row situation, it are existing franchises that got some 'inclusivity' elements added to the game that made the games different , worse, hard to get attached to etc.     Why did they not just made a new IP with those elements? 

It's stupid to moan that a Bioware game has inclusivity.
It's a Bioware game. Their games have always been diverse and inclusive.

You know what you are getting with that developer. - Mass Effect, Dragon Age... I would even argue Knights of the Old Republic, Neverwinter Nights and more all had progressive and inclusive elements. (I.E. Different races working together to achieve a common goal.)

konnichiwa said:

I get it obviously both sides have clearly a portion that have extreme views and I can't stand them but with the political issues today their is no center....

People think there is no center... Because they can't see the center.

I don't care if a game has progressive or conservative elements or story; I will play the game and judge it on it's individual merits. - That's what a centrist is about.
They don't care about the little political bullshit of left vs right. They are both as bad as each other... And often their arguments are silly and/or redundant anyway.

Trans character in a game? Who gives a crap. It's a character.
Likewise... I couldn't care if I was playing a character that is initiating genocide.

It's a game. Care less and enjoy it for what it is... A game.

konnichiwa said:

People tend to say I am center to please both groups but in reality if the center was huge we would have seen now a third big Center political group and just Democrats and Republicans....

Being in the center is the largest political group, that's where your swing voters exist.

And many countries do have "central" political parties which are the main political party.

I.E. Australia has their Center-left Aka. Labor party and the Center-Right aka. The Liberal party... With far-right political parties like One-Nation or far-right like the Greens filling in the extremists political affiliations. (And yes, both are extreme.)


konnichiwa said:

I mean what is the center view about abortion?  What is the center view about the Second Amendment? What is the center view about Blue lives + investment? Climate? Drugs? etc...

I am not American, so I don't care about the American "amendments".

As for Abortion... Again, I don't care about it. I am not going to tell what someone can/cannot do as that has no direct impact to me as an individual.

However, centrists tend to have views plucked from the left -OR- right depending on the individual issue.
For example... I have very conservative border/immigration and fiscal policy views, but very progressive social views... Because they are what benefits the most people in my great nation.

konnichiwa said:

I did not like Trump bailing out the debate but that one also seemed to be a political move considering people spend more time in the cats and dogs story and looked what was going in those cities...

You are missing the point I am making... It's got nothing to do with Trump or Kamala as individuals... It's that BOTH sides do the EXACT same thing.

konnichiwa said:

Twitter is weird because it seems literally to be the case that plenty of people got unbanned and their were a lot of discussions/debates going on but some did not like it so they created their own Twitter version 'like bluesky' that basically is an echo chamber build on the foundation of twitter...
It is like having a general discussion thread on this forum about all 3 platforms and their games but because one platform is not doing well the group of fans of that platform create their own echo chamber thread so they don't have to debat and see facts.


Freedom of speech is the argument often put forth by the conservative Musk... But also tends to ban/remove individuals who express that freedom when it conflicts with his own biases.
The point I am making is that there is irony in those actions. Conservatives are no more or less innocent than progressives... Because of the HUMAN ELEMENT.

And you are right... The "echo-chamber" of console discussions does exist.

But to put it in another context... A Centrist would be someone who owns and games on all consoles and is able to criticize or promote their respective strengths/weaknesses constructively, rather than negatively.



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