What is a "Woke" Game

[the-pi-guy]

JohnVG said:

It's me, or many of this "supposed cultures accepting a third genre as normal" are basically using it in Gods, on trying to explain actual known genetic problems o simply the homosexual conduct?

For exemple: A dual-genered god in an old culture is NOT a third accepted genre. Is a dual-gendered God: masculine and femenine in one. Where is the third? Some cultures did that, but is not that strange.

That's why I specifically took the entries that weren't about mythology. 

>In pre-colonial Andean culture, the Incas worshipped the chuqui chinchay, a dual-gendered god. Third-gender ritual attendants or shamans performed sacred rituals to honor this god.

This specifically talks about ritual attendants/shamans, not just the god itself.

JohnVG said:

Indians trying to explain 2000 years ago the hermafroditism, or an ambiguos genitalia, is not a third genre, is just Indians trying to understand why 0,02% of new born humans have that problem, and in any way can be considered a new genre because is absolutely residual and it does not represent any change in the human reproduction system. Is just a genetic problem that is present and known in humans (as in another mammals) like other genetic-base problems well known, as for example, Siamese twins (also historically adored in some cultures as some special beings or even Gods, and don't tell me they are a third genre).
There is also the Klinefelter syndrome, or 47,XXY cromosome. A genetic syndrome that has to be tested to be diagnosed. That's NONE a third genre. 
As any other kind of malformations and/or genetic problems during the conception or pregnancy, has to be treated as genetic problems during the gestation.

It makes very little sense to recognize that there are people outside of a strict binary, and then dismiss it. Calling them genetic problems, doesn't change the fact that those people exist. 

Nonbinary people are also "rare", that doesn't change the fact that they exist and plenty of old cultures talked about them. 

JohnVG said:

The Hawaian case, and native american cases... I have no idea about them, maybe Hawai is similar to Indian case, don't know. The native americans believing in more than 100 genres... needs to be very well explained if is true, because it has to be some good explanation about that and "what they understand as a genre". 100 genres in humans are just insane and difficult to defend in a serious way.

You've misread. It isn't 100 genders. It's 100 different cases of Native Americans having a third gender.

Native Americans aren't a single group, there are several hundred different Native American cultures. 

JohnVG said:

If you want to speak about "eunucs"... well, they are just castrated males, normally by medieval political and personal reasons inside a monarch's court (common in arab world, but also present in other places like China or Europe). Italians used to castrate pre-puber young male children (normally children from poor families) and called them "castrati", to use them as opera "female voice" singers until XIX century. Why? because italians for some stupid reason forbid women to sang in the opera. Naples was, precisely, one of the cities were castrati existed. That "tradition" is in fact, very related to Catholic church tastes, a very important religion in Italy as thay have the catholic headquarters (the Vatican) since the old roman times.  Castrati and other eunucs are, in no way, a good thing to celebrate and much less to see as a third genre.

A gender is a social role. Not a biological role. 

Sex is a biological spectrum, where most people generally fit in a binary. 

Gender is about the social role that comes with it.

Last edited by the-pi-guy - on 15 December 2024