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TallSilhouette said:

Everyone has their own definition and that's kind of the point. It means whatever you want it to, or more specifically whatever you don't like - particularly if that something is culturally or politically even remotely left of a conservative status quo.

I've seen more than one person call out Intergalactic as having an LGBT or DEI 'agenda' and I'd really like to know what exactly that 'agenda' is supposed to be and what exactly it's supposed to accomplish...

This actually made me google it.

Wiki says this:

"since the 1930s or earlier been used to refer to awareness of social and political issues affecting African Americans, often in the construction stay woke. Beginning in the 2010s, it came to be used to refer to a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights. Woke has also been used as shorthand for some ideas of the American Left involving identity politics and social justice, such as white privilege and reparations for slavery in the United States.[1][2][3]"

From wiki:

So its being aware that life is harder as a africa american, than a white, and accepting that as a fact.
Its being aware of social inequalities  (racial injustice (ei. world isn't fair if your not white), sexism (not fair if your a woman), and denial of LGBT rights.
Its accepting identity politics (like if a person says, I'm a woman, call me Mam!, you do).
Its about accepting that if your white, you owe other races reparations for something 300+ years ago, even if your worse off today than them (you could be), and never profited any from it.

Its about accepting that DEI hire's will ignore you, if your white or CIS. It's not about whos the hardest or best worker... they need to fit a profile to get hired.


In my opinion, a woke game is when there is no whites in the game.
Only as badguys.... and the protagonist is female, a marrie sue (power character), that belittle or leactures, constantly saves, the male character.
Its when purposefully, the activist devs make ugly looking women, because they don't like the male gaze, even if 80-90% of their target audience is male.
(ei. they take their agenda over things that can sell a game).

Honestly stuff like top scar surgery in a fantasy magic game... when you could just have a button, that allows your character to change from male to female whenever.... with say a spell (isn't that the fantasy for alot of people, that want sex change? for it to magically be good as the real thing?... nope, don't let them live that dream in a video game, add top scar surgery instead).  It's Taash in Dragon Age Veilguard, and that scene about "pulling a barve" ect.

I think dragon age veilguard is a "woke" game.
Rumor has it has now sold about 1,5million after 6-7weeks or so (needs to sell 4-5m to break even).
(it did 1m in like 2weeks... now after 6-7 weeks, its only gone up another 500k. This is never going to sell like Dragon age inquisition did.)

Woke was getting Dylan Mulvaney to make ads for Bud Light.

In BG3 you could do whatever, and no one cared.
I wouldn't call that game woke, and it had tons of representation.
So its about how the devs go about putting LGBTQ+ characters into the games themselves, and if they are trying to fill the game with their veiwpoints, about stuff like identity politics. Like there is obviously a decent way to have these characters in the game, when done right.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 14 December 2024