drkohler said:
Lol...stability. At the moment we have various islamic (terror) groups not yet fighting against each other for the prizes. The certain losers in this turmoil are the Syrian women. Whatch the girls being removed from schooling, women forced to wear burkas sooner than later. Erdogan does his usual thing, while the US hesitates and meanders around, as usual. And Israel actually did the right thing immediately: Take out the Syrian marine and air force within one short day before that stuff goes into the wrong hands (ISIS, by the way, is still there and the first thing the "winners" did was ending the attacks on ISIS). Iran is the obvious loser at the moment and the Russkies are not far behind them. Let's see how Syria is evolving in the next weeks. I can see fracturing the whole country into tribal regions, solidly fighting each other because only they are the "true muslims". You just can't reorganize the whole country into something reasonable after 50 years of Assad total control. What I find most annoying is all the political (usually right wing) parties in Europe calling all Syrians to get out of thir countries and return home asap, now that it is safe.. |
I'll rather have hope instead of being permanently negative about things never improving, it's all too often an attitude amongst Westerns that there's no hope for these Middle-East countries and it's a pretty shitty attitude, a lot of us in the West treat these regions like they're a bunch of savage animals and they'll never stop fighting and there's nothing to be done.
I've repeatedly said that we shouldn't trust the HTS fully but we should give them the opportunity to see if their actions match their words and so far their actions have matched their words, instead of assuming the worst, which could backfire massively, how about we take advantage of the fact that they clearly want our recognition in order to push good change in Syria?
Ironically, I've seen far more Westerners dooming Syria than I see Syrians dooming Syria right now...In fact all I've seen from Syrians is a mixture of hope, celebrations and cautious optimism. I've seen the various religious leaders in Syria who are apparently meant to hate each other and kill each other, instead uniting and forming alliances for now.
Israel did not do the right thing immediately, that is exactly the excuse that Russia uses to justify the invasion of Ukraine, "we need to protect ourselves so we're going to steal some land" already beyond the already stolen land that Israel has taken which the international community doesn't recognise as Israel's and only America does and only under Donald Trump.
HTS and ISIS are strong enemies, it was HTS who killed the ISIS leader, HTS has not "ended the attacks on ISIS" they've just not came into major contact with each other and HTS has a bigger issue right now than dealing with a bunch of unorganised terrorists scattered around Syria, they are far from a significant force nowadays inside of Syria.
Currently HTS is trying to organise a proper form of government for a stable transfer of power, trying to gain international recognition and moderate themselves to achieve that end, while Israel is land grabbing and Türkiye is using their SNA proxies to slaughter the Kurds. Right now it's very much Türkiye and Israel causing the instability while HTS are trying to provide stability.
Now I could be wrong and I've already repeatedly said that I'm not sure I trust HTS but for lack of a better word, we could "manipulate" them into doing the right thing now, they want to be removed from terrorist lists, have sanctions lifted, form proper diplomatic relationships with us? Then we can tell them to show proper moderate policies, equality treatment, in exchange for all of these things.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 10 December 2024
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