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Hardstuck-Platinum on 03 December 2024
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The_Yoda said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Ok. The PS4 has a high power draw and a design that shows it clearly is meant to sit stationary and be powered off of the wall. The switch has a low power draw and that means it's primary function is that of a handheld. 

Would you consider the WiiU to not be a home console 34W - 75W draw? 

The Switch dock also adds USB to the mix.  I use one for an ethernet dongle and the other is sometimes used for a wired controller.  I only mention this since I have not seen it brought up.

Didn't Nintendo also patent added processing power to a dock or am I remembering incorrectly?

If WiiU had a battery in it that it could run off for afew hours, then it would be debatable that it is a portable. Realistically though it would cost way too much and require way too much space to have a battery that can run a roughly 50W device for afew hours. So nope it's definitely home console. 

Doctor_MG said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

It doesn't matter what something is sold as because people can see what something is and how it functions. The ROG ally is a much better docked gaming experience than Switch, but it wasn't even sold as a docked experience. It was sold as a portable one, because that is how it primarily functions. Switch is the same but Nintendo just chose to market it as a hybrid console instead. How something is sold as is just marketing, how something functions is tangible. 

Nomad - genesis chipset + screen + battery = Handheld.

Genesis = just chipset. Requires power and TV = Home console 

Dismissing what it is sold as based on how it's viewed and functioned as would be fine IF the PSP was viewed as a home console by really anyone. But the vast majority of people never even experienced it's dock, and out of the ones that did I doubt many or even ANY consider it a home console or a hybrid. It just isn't it's primary function and isn't viewed that way.

The primary function of the Switch IS a hybrid though. Many people play it only docked. There are games which effectively require docked play (Super Mario Party, Ring Fit, Switch Sports). There are lots of people that play it primarily as a handheld too, of course. The majority of people (and Nintendo has shared data on this) use both it's dock function AND its portable function though. 

The Nomad can be plugged into the TV. It's the exact same thing as the PSP dock situation. You stating it is a handheld proves the point that function isn't necessarily what determines what something is actually used as, and what it is viewed as and sold as are greater indicators as to what it is.

I don't think we should go by how it is viewed either. I think I came across wrong there. Sold as/viewed as/used as is all irrelevant. Function doesn't change depending on how something is sold/viewed/used. You can sell something/use something/and view something how you want but it will never change it's primary function. 

If the Switch lite can provide an experience close enough to the regular switch, that proves the dock is not integral to it's primary function. If the switch without the dock was like a bird without wings, how could they market it and sell it? It's easy, it's because the dock isn't integral enough to the functioning of the switch because it's a handheld first.