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Hardstuck-Platinum 1 day ago
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SuperJortendo said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

If Switch didn't come with a dock, it wouldn't mean we can just disregard the feature that it can be played on a TV. Just because PSP didn't come with the cable to connect to TV doesn't mean the feature can be disregarded. I'm talking strictly about function here. I'm amazed how many people are trying to say that "it's different because of this and that". "it's different because it didn't come in the box". "it's different because it's the same resolution". Well guess what guys you can change the resolution by attaching it to an upscaler.  

And the rest of us are confused because you're ignoring all the things that the Switch does that a PSP doesn't that make it a fully functional home console, and saying that all a home console has to do is be able to be displayed on a TV via an optional peripheral that doesn't work with the launch hardware. 😀 

Edit - I shouldn't have said "the rest of us" because I'm only speaking for myself. 

The Switch Lite doesn't work with the dock either but that doesn't invalidate all the other switches that do.

Hiku said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

If your not willing to rule out Switch as a console, then what about the Sega Nomad or the PSP. Both could connect to the TV and perform similar to a Switch. This is my point. If you say Switch is a console, you have to say the Sega Nomad and PSP are, for the sake of consistency and i think that is a fair thing to say. 

When I think of a console experience, what I feel the PSP was missing is partially the lack of convenience of not being sold as such (the cable for the TV not included), but also primarily that it doesn't come with a controller. By controller I mean something at least somewhat ergonomic for its time.

There's only a handheld experience when controlling the PSP.
Due to the form factor and the one "analogue stick" (which was more like a nub) not being something you'd expect from a console experience in that era.

If Switch wasn't sold with the dock, and it didn't come with the thing that lets you connect the joycons into a controller, I wouldn't consider it a console. Switch Light was such a product, and I consider that variant only a handheld.

Well someone else in this thread was saying they connected a controller to their (TV connected) PSP go and used it as their console for some time. To me, that is a genuine match for functionality when compared to the switch. I just can't agree that we should disregard/invalidate a function because it didn't come with the stuff needed inside the box. That's like saying, if you sell a car that can transform into a boat, but the boat transformation button is sold separately, you just disregard that it has that feature. See how that logic is flawed?