Mnementh said:
The quality of discussion was high before? And I learn stuff like I first time hear about the details of Kropotkins theories and 'Maakbare Samenleving', which is all very interesting to me. |
To add my 2 cents, this is how people have been living together in the Middle East before UK and France cut the region up and forced nation states on the region.
Before WW1 there was the Ottoman empire which let people mostly live the way they wanted to. No direct governing. Then WW1 happened and different groups were forced together in 'Nations' which is why there is so much trouble in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Iran. The kingdoms seem to do better (Qatar, Saudi-Arabia, UEA) yet the people there also don't agree with the 'government'.
The creation of ethnocentric states is what causes all the problems in the ME today, including Israel-Gaza.
Western countries will have to adapt to a multi cultural society instead of hanging on to the ethnocentric state.
I grew up in the Netherlands and back then the belief was, immigrants need to be integrated by spreading them around. They need to adhere to the 'Dutch identity' to fit in. Yet that's not how people want to live.
Contrast to Canada where Toronto has many cultural neighborhoods. No forced integration, let people keep their identity and share it with people from their group. And a country only gets culturally richer from it. Chinatown for example is not a negative, yet in Dutch politics (when I still lived there) they wanted to prevent those organic societies from happening.
Integration also benefits from people with the same culture and language flocking together. Just like Kropotkin argues. Being surrounded with people like you who have gone through the same process makes it a lot easier for newcomers to adapt to a new country.
