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EricHiggin said:
sc94597 said:

And Trump campaigned for Kari Lake and a dozen other Trumpists who lose at worst rate than non-Trump endorsed candidates (do you remember 2022?) Harris was, unfortunately, not Obama just like say DeSantis (as an example) isn't Trump. 

Ya but DeSantis totally won Florida the first time because of Trump so...

Even Michelle campaigned for Harris and stood behind her, not just Barack.

You're telling me both Obama's, and Clintons, stood behind Harris and it wasn't enough? Didn't Bush get behind her late in the election? (maybe that didn't help)?

Let's remember what happened in 2022. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/09/trump-endorsed-candidates-2022-election-results

But by the early hours of Wednesday morning, Republicans were down a seat in the Senate, and the House remained too close to declare a winner. And in those contests, as well as some prominent gubernatorial elections, Trump’s overall record contained many notable misses. Several prominent Trump-backed candidates lost without much of a whimper, including MAGA gubernatorial candidates Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania and Dan Cox in Maryland, House candidates J.R. Majewski in Ohio, Karoline Leavitt in New Hampshire and Yesli Vega in Virginia, and Don Bolduc, who he endorsed in the New Hampshire Senate race.

Again, if a severely impaired Biden could beat a far less impaired than current Trump in 2020, Obama a guy who ended his second term with a 59% favorability rating and who won the EC by 365 v 173 and 332 v 206, in his respective presidential elections would also easily. 

Obama won Pennsylvania by +5.3 points in 2012 and +10.3 points in 2008. Obama's lowest approval ratings were roughly in the ball-park of Trump's highest. 

And again, I say this as somebody who voted for Romney in 2012.