Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[Ryuu96]

SecondWar said:

Ryuu96 said:

Maybe I'll regret this but at least you can count on a lot of right-wing parties in Europe to not bend over backwards to Russia unlike the Republicans of today. It's quite a stark difference between the Conservative Party in the UK, one of Ukraine's strongest supporters, versus Trump. Italy's Meloni, is considered pretty damn right wing but still supports Ukraine. Poland's PiS is considered right-wing but were very strong supporters of Ukraine. Even outside of Europe, Japan is pretty Conservative but also supports Ukraine. ANO in Czech Republic is Centre-Right. I believe Latvia and Lithuania are Conservative too. Even fucking Erdogan supports Ukraine quite a bit and he's a piece of shit.

There's exceptions like Hungary but for the most part support for Ukraine has been a bipartisan issue, of course there's also the threat of AfD in Germany and National Rally in France as well who are pretty damn pro-Russian right wing parties but it's unlikely they achieve enough power to govern on their own and entering into a coalition without supporting Ukraine is a dealbreaker for most. I believe we seen this recently with Netherlands, Geert Wilders is pro-Russian but couldn't form a government with right-wing parties without making concessions and one of those has been on Ukraine.

But America...Yeah.

Republicans are that far fucking gone that I'm defending the Tories!!!

Depends on the party and thr leader. Garage and Reform would back Russia. And the Tories are moving further right so their position can't be guaranteed. I still suspect Farage will attempt a reverse takeover of the Tories before the next GE.

Kemi won't last the full 4 years, Lol. If one there's one thing I can give Tories credit for it's their ability to fucking backstab each other the single moment something is going wrong, Lol. I really don't believe moving further right will work with UK's voters and Reform has too few MPs to be relevant in any way. Still a lot of Tories support Ukraine too, maybe they'll be influenced by America...But I'll keep the faith that they won't. It's not like it's easy for Republicans to boot their own leader out but for Tories it's just another Tuesday. PMs have a lot less power over their party than Presidents do. 

I also sort of expect Reform will collapse by next election, I do believe a large part of them were Tory protest voters sick of the Tories and now that they've made their voice heard they will come back to Tories next election. There's always a chance for Lib Dems to grow even more as well as the other "protest vote" which is what sort of happened last election too. Happened to UKIP too, though not in quite as big numbers as Reform but people panicking over their growth only for them to quickly become irrelevant again, I mean shit it happened to Lib Dems not too long ago, Lol.

I do want to believe that most Brits are centrists, but if Labour doesn't fix the economy in 4 years then there's a risk that Reform grow, but I feel like it's just as likely a bunch of people stupidly go back to Tories, Lol. This country basically has a two party system and people will see how useless it is to vote for Reform considering how few seats they get, and also how Reform are fucking useless themselves, Farage spends more time in America than his own constituency, and they'll go scurrying back to Tories who will promise fixing the economy.

But Keir better get his ass in gear and stop that from happening. He has 4 years.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 06 November 2024