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Ryuu96 on 06 November 2024
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Chrkeller said:
Ryuu96 said:

She lost because of the economy I.E. Inflation/Grocery Prices, Imho. But on the flip side, if there weren't so many people comfortable with knowingly voting for a fascist, she wouldn't have lost, and that's the scary thing to me. Hatred and bigotry won.

What did they even promise, RFK Jr in control of their health, a brain being eaten alive by worms, an antivaxxer and conspiracy theorist, no fluoride in the water. Banning abortion for all cases. Talking shit about childless adults, Democrats, Puerto Ricans, Haitian-Americans, Mexicans, Jews who don't vote Republican, women, etc, the only group they didn't insult was white men. Musk promising that people will be hurt by their economic plans. Stupid tariff ideas. Drill baby drill. Fuck Ukraine and fuck Palestine.

Robinson, a self claimed Nazi got fucking 40% of the vote.

And I'm sorry, as much as I hate Israel, Palestine had nothing to do with why Democrats lost. Many of these reasons being listed are irrelevant in the face of inflation, human beings are largely selfish. Harris economic plans were far more widely endorsed by people who actually know what they're talking about but Harris was massively hurt by being part of the incumbent government and they receive all the blame, if people can't afford day to day goods then they're going to try someone else even if it makes zero sense.

America is rotten to its core, a lot of people comfortable with fascism and a poor education system wherein people will vote for a convicted felon and man who tried to overthrow democracy because they foolishly believe he will bring the price of their bread and eggs down. Sadly Democrats will take the lesson from this that a female president is unviable so I expect 2028 will be Shapiro - Whitmer.

I'm probably going to have to take a dip from the internet Tbh. Feels like America has just spat in Europe's face and I'm now going to have to watch not only Israel go fucking insane bombing the shit out of Palestine and everyone around them but also watch Ukraine slowly be slaughtered by Russia, thanks America. Real fucking great allies.

I am trying not to be mad at Americans as a whole but it's difficult, I really despise America as a country right now, all I will say is that Democrats should hunker down and protect each other from the shitstorm that is coming their way, look out for each other, and keep up the fight where possible but I don't think I can personally stand to watch this shitshow anymore, I think I just have to focus on my own country.

She lost because running Biden was stupid.  Running her was stupid, she NEVER was popular.  She lost because liberal policies DO NOT resonant with the average American.  Trump is an easy target; liberals are too stupid to run a good campaign.  Someone like Peter B. would have easily won.  He is from Indiana, middle America appeal, and he has a military service record, which is very high appeal in middle America.  

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California is turning into a cesspool with increased violent crime and absurd levels of homeless, Harris is from California.  Bad pick.  Americans have been unhappy about the border for 4 years, the Biden administration has done nothing to address it.  Running the incumbent was stupid, full stop.  

Liberals lost, because they underestimated Trump yet again.  They overestimate their policy appeal constantly.  Liberals live in a fantasy world and are completely disconnected from regular hardworking Americans.  

If you think Pete Buttigieg had a chance, a gay man from Indiana in the extremely religious America, then I don't know what to say, I would concede that probably someone like Shapiro had a better chance than Harris but not Pete and I fucking love Pete a lot more than I like Shapiro. Also I don't know why the think Pete's service record is relevant when America elected a draft dodger who talks shit about the military all the time, who highest ranking members of America's military calls a fascist, Republicans only pretend to give a shit about the military.

Biden administration tried to address the border with a bipartisan, right-wing border bill, which Donald Trump told the Republicans to block and they did so spare me that bullshit. Harris should have done more to differentiate herself from Biden because his government is the one in charge during inflation and that was a mistake on her part but I don't know how you can argue that inflation didn't play a massive factor in this loss and any Democrat would have had a tough time; Also I feel like you continue to ignore the selfishness and bigotry of Americans.

Almost none of Trump's policies addressed the average hardworking American, far more of Harris policies did, Trump insulted basically every person aside from the white man, millions of Americans know they're voting for a fascist but they don't care because they think this fascist will bring their groceries down. It's bollocks that Harris delved too deep into certain policies, she consistently moved herself to the right during this election, on the border, she consistently tried to appeal to Republicans, they almost threw trans people under the bus to try to get Republican voters, it was for nought.

All I'd concede on is that in hindsight either Biden should have stepped aside a lot sooner or there should have been a primary and it should have been an average white dude with charisma like Josh Shapiro at the top because American politics is more like a popularity contest now as well because even then it would have been an uphill battle, I am 100% convinced now that if it weren't for COVID, Trump would have battered Biden in 2020 as well. America has moved to the right.