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killer7 on 05 November 2024
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JRPGfan said:
killer7 said:

They do not do that. A fiscal report is no paper for fanboys to sadisfact themselfes or to start a console war. Its a paper for tax return that every company has to do. Everyone that works self dependend needs to do. Also a company like Sony. You HAVE TO REPORT what you sell. I am self dependend and do this as well. I cannot just hide 5 million + (!) consoles and 11 years later say "oh yeah we sold 5 million more than we reported." If i tell them 10 years later "Hey i earned an extra 50.000€ they would sue me to hell. Of course this is a much smaller amount of money. That would be a tax crime. I am sure Sony does not do that. This would be tax evasion. This is the reason why its save to say PS4 was discontinued in march 2022 because hardwarenumbers where not reported anymore. Its the same when Nintendo came out and tell us they sold 160 million DS all of a sudden. I wouldn't buy it as well. In 9½ months the PS2 did not ship 5- 7 million. No way in hell without even an announcement. See what i mean? They did not ship PS2 till 2024. There would have been games along with it to sell through stock. And 5- 7 million is a damn huge stock to sell for a 13 years old+ system. In other words the PS2 cannot have 160 million, let alone 162. You understand what i am trying to explain?

The last official sale through number was abit over 155m units back in 2012.

They didn't just stop selling them though, back in 2012.
It still had newly released games in 2013....
Repaired them until 2018.

They probably had units shipped, that just slowly sold over time? I don't know what else to say.

155,1 million was the official shipment number back in march 2012 i do not find the report anymore or a source but i remember it. In their curtent report it says "more than 155 million units sold" 155,1 is more than 155,0 million. So the gap between sold and shipped was relativley small. That was the point we where all missing. Many people falsly jumped into conclusions and upped the number to 158 million or so because they thought "more than 155 million" would mean 3 more million shipped wich was not true. This is why many people on Reddid where speculating about this 161,81 million number wich was nothing more than fantasy when we look at the official salesgap in march 2012 There is a very old article in german where a webside quotes vgcharts falsley asuming that the DS had surpassed the PS2. Sony called them and told them that this was wrong. I will update the post because it could help a lot finding the truth. Soon Sony called these journalists and told them that this was not true.

They wrote: "Bis März 2012 haben wir 155 Millionen Konsolen ausgefolgt. Mittlerweile nähern wir uns der Marke von 160 Millionen, so Sony." 

Alalysing translation: Till march 2012 we shipped 155 million units (ausgefolgt= shipped) Meanwhile we are nearing the mark of 160 million units, according to Sony.

This was around the middle of december. If we go after what Sony said, the PS2 was NOT at 160 million units shipped, let alone sold in mid december 2012. A month later (january 13, 2013) it was discontinued. I am trying to find te source and I will update this post...

Last edited by killer7 - on 05 November 2024