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RedKingXIII on 01 November 2024
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killer7 said:

Of course all 3 systems compete directly. There's no quetion. Like i said, just because a prefered system is not the Nr.1 selling one does not make another Nr.1 system a "non competitior". That nonsense started when Nintendo was winning with the Wii. 

By talking about support: For its 9th year we're about to enter software support is amazing. We will get MP4B, XBX, Prof. Layton, Pokemon Z-A in 2025 alone. And thats not all for sure. Of course a handheld's software support in it's 9th year isn't as shiny like in year 3 or 4, but that wasn't the case for any system. Not even the PS2 or the NES had so many great games in year 9. Nobody doubts that Switch sales go down. But they are not down on a level like the PS4 was till 2022 when it was discontinued.

Yeah it's been a weak year compared to others in the past but that's because it's the final year of the Switch, obviously. And I'll take it over the final years of any other Nintendo console lol.

The PS4 with all of its cross gen games is the only thing that is better imo, 2020-2022 were great years for the PS4.

Hardstuck-Platinum said:
RedKingXIII said:

The Switch is selling fine for its age so yes, a Tegra X1 is still enough for success.

The games you cited would never come to the Switch even when it launched. It always had terrible AAA support, many games skipped it... but that and being underpowered didn't matter and it sold 140m+, so to 140 million people having good AAA third party support is not important I guess.

I do agree it's been a shitty year compared to the past ones for the Switch but maybe that's because its being replaced next year, so Nintendo is focused on the successor? I really don't understand what this has to do with anything I've said but sure I agree.

In any case, I still think the Switch/PS5/Series are direct competitors, and you haven't really told why they wouldn't be. They're both competing for my money (and for the money of millions) like I said.

Quality over quantity. If mass producing obsolete hardware was the key to gaming success Sony and MS would be doing it too. Sony is ranked 1st in revenue and MS is 2nd so they are doing it the right way. Doesn't matter if Switch sells 500 million, if developers cannot produce the games they want on a Tegra X1, they won't develop games for it. 

If you're making an AAA game sure, the Tegra X1 is a major problem. But AAA games are not 100% of the industry. The Switch hardware is more than fine for indie and smaller titles, and I suspect they're not going to stop coming for it even after the Switch 2 releases. Just like these games didn't stop coming to the PS4 after the PS5 came out.

So Nintendo selling 140m+ consoles is bad because... they make less revenue (but more profit) compared to their competitors? Weird metric but okay I guess.

You still haven't explained why they don't compete directly and I don't think you will, so we're done here.