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Bofferbrauer2 said:

JEMC said:

At least the productivity performance is good enough, when it works, but yeah, in games it's close to a disaster.
As for the socket longevity, LGA 1700 has lasted three gens. It may have been a coincidence or a sign that things may be changing.

What is clear is that both CPU releases hasn't been great. We'll see how the X3D ones fare.

The positive note, to say something, is that both Arrow Lake and Zen5 represent am architectural change, a new beginning of sorts for both companies, so things should only improve from here on.

It feels to me like Intel made their chips, or at least their P-cores, very wide so they can work through many instructions in parallel. This works well for for workloads that can make good use of this like rendering, but gaming is not one of those use-cases, and it tanks it's performance.

You may be right, as overclocking the E-cores gives better results in gaming than trying to do it with the P ones.