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Ryuu96 said:
Why do I get the feeling Scholz is going to attempt to throw Ukraine under the bus, I know he says no decisions about Ukraine's fate without the consent of Ukrainians but it just feels weird how much I'm hearing lately about Germany trying to talk to Putin, any talks with Putin should have Zelenskyy included, unless Ukraine gives permission for a country to talk to Putin about what happens in Ukraine. If Ukraine doesn't give such permission or isn't involved in the talks then it's a waste of time, it's not up to Germany what happens in Ukraine. What I feel like lately is Europe is waiting on the US Election and that will decide what happens, if Trump wins I just have the horrible feeling that Europe is going to piss itself and throw Ukraine under the bus, likely try to force Ukraine to accept defeat and shitty concessions, to the rage of Eastern Europe. But maybe I'm just too cynical lately. |
Europe knows that if Ukraine falls, that Russia will be not only more aggressive, but even closer and in the larger countries faces so to speak. They can't let ukraine lose. Now, Russia has done very well with buying off individual politicians but they can't sway the majority. What about the example of orban? The hungarians hate him for kowtowing to russia. So the influence that russia has can only go so far.
