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SvennoJ on 03 October 2024
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LegitHyperbole said:
SvennoJ said:

It's both. Attacking Iran does not prevent a Palestinian state, yet more war will keep him in power. He's still furthering Israeli settlements in the West Bank as well, which makes a Palestinian state harder to achieve day by day. Fallen out the news now, yet that's also still ongoing.

We've already seen what happens when you scare Iran. They fire back.

I have to ask you... you do believe that Hezzbollah and Hamas are terrorists right. Whether the want a state or not, will get it or not or have a right to it or not. I'm fairly sure 95% of the ME outside of isreal would care less about Palestine if it meant an end to war. That number is probably reducing quickly as Isreal continue to radicalise the youth.

I do believe they use terrorist attacks to further their goals. I also believe both Hamas and Hezbollah arose as resistance groups, supported by the people who saw no one else standing up for them. Hamas and Hezbollah both have civil and political divisions. They are more like a government with armed brigades that use terrorist strategies.

They're really not all that different from what the IDF is doing now, at a much much larger scale. (Except the IDF does have precision weapons, superior intelligence and doesn't need to use terror tactics) So do you believe Israel are terrorists? Or can you see the difference there between the warmongers and the caretakers.

It's all in the eye of the beholder. USA sees Hezbollah as Iran's proxy. Iran sees them as their ally. Lebanese see them as their defender after Israel invaded and occupied Lebanon for 18 years in the 80s. (When Hezbollah was founded)

I don't believe Hamas, Hezbollah are the same as Al Qaeda, ISIS, PIJ, Hilltop Youth. Their tactics though are deplorable. Just like the IDF. It would help a lot if Hamas (and PIJ) and Hezbollah would stop lobbing rockets into Israel. The Iron dome is kinda self defeating. It has encouraged firing rockets more instead of deterred. And now we're back to deadly terrorist attacks like yesterday in Tel Aviv. Violence only begets more violence until there is no one left to fight.

If 95% of the ME didn't care about Palestinians, then why are the Abraham accords falling apart... Saudi-Arabia for example won't normalize ties with Israel now until a Palestinian state.