coolbeans said: But you can't disregard that you're responding to someone who names Hezbollah though. Just saying "how would you feel if Russia maimed & blinded your mom like Israel did here?" misses an important component when you don't map out why they chose this action. When Russia's hypothetical reason is "funding Ukraine" then they look insane, but when you map on a closer comparison like mine then the moral calculus shifts. Like, if Russian intelligence found out a crate of new Samsung Galaxy Notes were being delivered to my hypothetical group of quasi-NATO mercenary crews that're shelling Russian towns, the intention becomes clearer. I'm still emotionally damaged from the attack, but the blame is spread out to other non-Russian actors. -"Especially when Israel's response in force is to apply 1000+ times more damage than they sustained." But why is this 1000+ more damage by comparison though? Israel by default is going to sustain less damage in virtually any war b/c they're able to block most of the rockets coming in. It's sort of like we've flipped expectations of how a sovereign country is expected to operate against its adversaries. Like, as if because you're able to stop most of the indiscriminate bombing from hostile forces who carry genocidal intent you should... let it continue unless said hostiles are firing from an open field. That also doesn't mean a no-holds-barred approach is morally correct either, but what actually is proper fighting here? |
Proper fighting is adhering to international and humanitarian law after exhausting all diplomacy. Israel has continuously blocked a ceasefire deal, which Hamas has accepted as far back as May.
It's not only that Israel has a great defense system, Hezbollah and now Iran have also been careful to avoid civilian casualties, aiming for military installations. Putting pressure on Israel, letting Israel know that their defenses are not fool proof while trying to avoid collateral damage. The opposite of what Israel has been doing.
And if you look at the raw data, who is the aggressor here
In the latest escalation between Hezbollah and Israel, more than 569 people, including 50 children and 94 women, have been killed in Israeli air strikes across Lebanon since September 23.
In retaliation, Hezbollah launched rocket attacks into Israel, with some projectiles directed at Israeli airbases.
The exchange of attacks between Israel and Hezbollah has been going on for almost a year since October 8, when Hezbollah began launching attacks on Israel in solidarity with the Palestinian people trapped in the Gaza Strip as Israel waged war on the enclave.
Israel has attacked Hezbollah nearly four times that of the Lebanese group, tallying more than 8,300 attacks along the 120km (75-mile) border.
Hezbollah, which was formed in 1982 to fight Israel’s invasion and occupation of southern Lebanon, says it will stop attacking Israel if its assault on Gaza stops. Its leader Hassan Nasrallah says the group does not seek an expanded war but is prepared to match Israel’s aggression.
Also keep in mind Hezbollah is much more than a military resistance group. They are a political party in Lebanon as well. Civil workers were hit, paramedics were hit, children were hit and who ever else happened to be nearby when the devices exploded.
Yes it looks insane to booby trap thousands of devices not knowing in whose hands they will be or where at the time they explode. All the while having a much easier / much faster way available to return the 60,000 evacuees to their homes in Northern Israel. Stop the genocide, sign the ceasefire deal Hamas, Biden and the UNSC all have previously signed off on.