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the-pi-guy said:

The situation in Israel is very awful, but I don't think there's an abundance of people here that are directly or indirectly affected by it. Whereas Russia is in a number of people's backyards, they have even poisoned people on British soil, and affected American elections. Russia also has nuclear weapons. As horrific as Israel is, it's not particularly going to have a direct affect on the vast majority of people here, whereas Russia has a global effect.

I know other people have already said all of that. What I really want to know is:

If you're genuinely asking a question, why is it so hard to ask it honestly without flaming?

If you're just trolling, what exactly do you get out of that? 

No direct effect, but it will have worse long term effects. Trust in western journalism has reached a low point, lying and publishing propaganda has become the norm. International and humanitarian law are further destroyed day by day. Freedom of speech and right to protest are being challenged in the US and Europe alike. The West is being exposed as the colonial hypocrites they are, meanwhile China and the Global South are waking up.

Israel has 100x the direct effect on American elections compared to Russia's minor meddling. Netanyahu pretty much killed Biden's re-election chances, hence he had to step down. Harris quickly amassed many major donors, no doubt with many strings attached. Aipac has a firm broad hold on the US' political system. The only positive for Harris (in foreign politics) is that Trump will be much worse.

There's also that US and in part Europe are responsible for the current escalations in the ME. An inconvenient truth, challenging long standing world views of the West being the 'good' guys and Muslims/Palestinians bloodthirsty terrorists. State terrorism by Israel is even being applauded by some in the West. The conflict is challenging the Western view of history in the ME.


Russia-Ukraine is a much more straightforward conflict. Russia invaded Ukraine, Russia needs to leave Ukraine alone and give Crimea back. The West is (mostly) helping Ukraine while sanctioning Russia. The opposite of the Israel-Gaza conflict.
It's much 'nicer' to support your country giving military aid to Ukraine, than see your country denying the live unfolding genocide and ethnic cleansing.



And yes, Russia is in Europe's backyard. The red scare is what a lot of people grew up with, including me. Turns out, most of it was embellished. Russia isn't that powerful and definitely doesn't want to start a nuclear war, although Putin likes to threaten with one daily.

I do believe that if the West had embraced Russia more during/after the collapse of the USSR we might not have had someone like Putin in power today. But it happened, now he's got to be dealt with before he starts anymore invasions trying to rebuild his vision of the USSR.

As for the West now, stop dragging your feet, give Ukraine what it needs to expel Russia. Send troops if necessary. We could do it in the Bosnian war. (although still couldn't prevent genocide)