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Ryuu96 said:

shikamaru317 said:

Where I'm at on the whole AC Shadows controversy personally:

• I am typically on the anti-woke side of the line that has been drawn in the sand within the gaming and broader entertainment culture war. I'm tired of seeing remasters and remasters and reboots all censored compared to the games of the past, I'm tired of devs forcing unrealistic amounts of diversity into games, overcorrecting an issue, I'm tired of devs placing more focus on woke issues within their games rather than things like good gameplay and a good storyline.
• I have been waiting for a AAA Feudal Japan game, and AC Japan specifically, for a very long time, I'm among those who have been hoping to see a Japan AC ever since the first tease of one way back in AC1
• AC has never been a series that claimed to be historically accurate, right from the very first AC game Ubisoft opened the series with a disclaimer that read "Inspired by historical events and characters, this work of fiction was developed by a multicultural team of various religious faiths and beliefs". The series has always taken a pretty loose approach with the lives of real life historical figures.
• Therefore, Yasuke's inclusion doesn't really bother me so much, he was a real historical figure, and if they want to portray him as a full samurai in armor rather than the retainer he actually was, I personally don't see how that is any different than portraying Pope Alexander VI as a man with a magical staff.
• I take issue more with some of their other design choices, the hip-hop infused soundtrack for Yasuke's combat seems badly out of place, the poor research they did into architecture, clothing, and the manners and customs of the time period are out of character for Ubisoft who usually did well in those areas for other AC games.
• Ultimately I love the AC series and I've been waiting for AC Japan for so long that I am going to play this game, it's simply a matter of if I play it at launch, or wait for some PC mod fixes and improvements.

We disagree on a lot when it comes to these issues but thanks for being actually sensible in this scenario.

It's fucking Assassin's Creed for fuck sake, it hasn't been historically accurate since AC2 and it delved into Sci-Fi nonsense starting with AC2 as well and full-blown whacko mythology starting with AC Origins. Even AC1 got historical dates completely wrong. For the love of fuck I can't with people being mad about this, Lmfao.

Every single Assassin's Creed has featured a completely made up protagonist who have large impacts on history, for fuck sake Edward Kenway would have been written down in history books alongside Blackbeard and the like but he's completely made up in AC. People demand not to race swap characters, not to shove characters in "where it doesn't make sense" AC decides to feature for once a real fucking person who has been written about multiple fucking times including by many Japanese developers, manga artists and anime writers and people still lose their shit.

Nobody would be bitching if this was fucking John Blackthorne.

Some historians have said he was a samurai, some have said he wasn't a samurai, direct descendants of his Nobunaga say he was. Seems to me like nobody fucking knows for sure so I think we can stop losing our shit at Assassin's Creed taking some liberties can't we? You want to whine about him not being a samurai then moan about all the other historical accuracies and made up bullshit that AC has, including every single character starting with AC1.

Did you even watch Shogun? The whole purpose of John Blackthorne's character was literally just to give a foreigner's perspective of the events, while at the same time make a point that his presence had no significance on any of the outcomes.

The whole reason Shogun is praised is because it proved how good modern media could be if it's actually made by people who respect the material, setting and their audience. Yet here you are on another belligerent tangent defending this lazy slop that does nothing but insult your intelligence. Maybe that's fine with you but other people demand better. Not sure where you get off criticising them in such a childish manner, when all the evidence that's come out has definitely proven Ubisoft to be the incompotent lying morons they are.