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twintail 3 hours ago
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epicurean said:

I think you could rework Concord to make it be appealing. Add some more modes, completely rework the character designs and add some new ones, and maybe add a short single player campaign. Get rid of the toxic character designer and whoever it was that made people call them "The Professor." I think you'd see a fair amount of good will from certain segments of gamers at that point, and maybe it could start a snowball effect.

However, I highly doubt that happens, and my guess is they will hit the chopping block, with (hopefully) some of their talent being absorbed by other PS Studio teams.

Edit: I would also rename it. People would still know, but it might help get the stink off a little.

That sounds like a lot of work. Chopping block seems more likely unless whatever ideas they pitch seem workable. But I do think that the easiest thing might be to reuse the assets they have in some way.

epicurean said:


But then this gen on PS5...I starting playing forbidden west, and after the beginning 5 hours when you can see the size of the map.... I had just gotten done playing Elden Ring and I was just like "This is too big, there are too many points of interest, this feels like work." I didn't last much longer and gave up on it. The DLC was more I wasnt interested in. Now a Lego Horizon game. And a remaster of the first game. I feel like that studio is just completely gung ho about Aloy and nothing but Aloy. Would've loved a Killzone 2 remaster or a new entry in the franchise (tho i really didnt like the last one they made...Shadow something I think.) Or something new. Any rumors about them doing anything non-Horizon related?

Considering how well the IP sells, it makes sense they don't want to abandon it. First Horizon did better than their entire portfolio before it. 

When it comes to Guerrilla, it appears there's at least 3 new Horizon titles in development: a mobile MP title (by NetEase?), an MP title of their own (there's alpha footage of this somewhere) and Horizon 3. Then of course there's Lego Horizon and the remaster update (this'll be a paid patch no doubt). 

I think what's interesting is that they're trying to hit different segments of the market: the mainline series, the VR spinoff, the MP title, the mobile title and then the Lego game.

But I too wish for them to remaster... no, remake Killzone 2, MP intact. That would be something... 

NoLimitVito said:

What a complete waste of investment Firewalk studio was, How do you spend millions to buy a studio and the only thing they are capable of is a live service game and the whole staff is incapable of making a different game project or be reshuffled to work on something new. They could have probably bought out a smaller studio who can make anything from RPG/shooter/TPS/horror for far less money instead of a 1 trick pony live service game studio.

The team was formed to make a live service title and belonged to a different company. Sony took up publishing rights. Considering what has been happening with the original owner, it's speculated that Sony bought the studio to prevent them being closed because of the partnership they had (Sony did help secure office space for them). 

There's no indication that the staff can't be reshuffled or can't work on something else. It's far too early to make these assumptions. Even if the team can do that (and I'm sure they can), the issue is whether it's worth the continued financial investment from Sony to do so. Even if the numbers being thrown around are clearly wrong, the project has basically received close to zero revenue. 

and FYI, studios who work on other games can be as easily reduced to nothing, this isn't only a live service issue.

TallSilhouette said:

Last figure I heard was around $100M according to the Second Wind/former Escapists crew.

Seems more reasonable to me