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Ryuu96 on 08 September 2024
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Hardstuck-Platinum said:
Ryuu96 said:

I don't really think this is about console-wars, I haven't seen many Xbox users on this site dancing on Concord's grave, heck I'm a huge Xbox user and I'm sort of defending Sony, Lol. You're right though that Starfield had an option to select pronouns, it wasn't really mentioned on this site but it did enrage some sad fucks on Twitter/YouTube but those people were largely rightfully mocked in response, like that one YouTuber who made an entire rant on it, Lol.

But the reaction is different from Concord/Starfield (and similarly, people conveniently ignore DEI agencies like SBI having a hand in Alan Wake 2/Ragnarok/Spider-Man 2). It's just that Concord was a mid game at its core and unlike those above games it failed in the metric of both critics and sales and thus it's an easy target to use in the culture wars, that's why the response is different.

Concord did not fail because of "DEI" or "Woke" or "Pronouns" though but that's where the majority of discussion has delved towards because like I said, it's an easy target for the culture wars because it is a game which outright failed unlike the others. That's why you're seeing the differences in responses. I wouldn't put it down to console wars but more of the same old political bullshit.

I do sort of agree with you though that it does sometimes make me uncomfortable (and not just for Concord) to see how happily and eager gamers are at large to often dog-pile and gravedance on videogames, to go harass developers and act like a game failing is the worst thing ever, I do wish people at large would be more sympathetic to the years of hard work and effort and love people put into their videogames for us even if they sometimes don't hit and I'm not saying you need to like the game but don't obsessively beat it up either, just move on, Lol.

I know it seems silly to suggest that console wars are responsible for it, but you can't forget just how intense it can get and how seriously people take it. Dan Stapleton gave Starfield a 7 and received a vile torrent of abuse for it. He was on twitter trying to defend his score and people like Angry Joe had to come out and defend him. Don't underestimate the extreme lengths people go to, to defend their console of choice. As you have said, so many games have DEI integrated into them into some form, that it wouldn't even make sense to get angry about it anymore because it's so common. 

I believe this is just a continuation of what happened to Sony when they said you now require a PSN account to play HD2 on PC. Sony and arrowhead received an extreme and vile torrent of abuse until they were forced to reverse their policy. I believe people just don't like Sony. Why else throw vile abuse at someone for requiring a PSN account? 

Happened to TLOU2 as well though, that was largely TLOU fans as well. It's just dumb politics, us Xbox fans aren't all bad, Lol. And in fact I was defending TLOU2 from *certain* people as well. There COULD be some Xbox fanboys latching onto the political angle just to throw digs at Sony but I don't think it's the majority.

It's just a game which failed so it's being used in teh culture wars. Harder to make your point with games which sell millions, receive critical acclaim. Got to ignore them ones, then you see one which failed and BAM. It's like the other game which is being blasted right now, a game I literally never fucking heard of until I saw the anti-woke brigade complaining about it, if they weren't whining about it I literally never would have known it existed and nor would thousands of other people, Lmfao. I can't even remember its damn name right now but they just latch onto whatever they can find.