the-pi-guy said:
Majora said:
Because Group A wants to compel Group B to use the new words. However, let me speak from my own perspective as that’s the only one I have authority on. |
And Group B is pushing to prevent the language use. So why isn't that viewed as control? If compelling certain speech is control, then so is compelling someone not to use certain speech.  Majora said:
I genuinely do not care what words individuals or groups use. They are free to use all the words that they like. In fact, I do not care what actions individuals or groups take, with one caveat; that these words/actions do not harm, or infringe on, the rights of others. My problem begins where compelled speech/behaviour comes into play. I will not be compelled by any person or entity to use words that I do not wish to use and I find it egregious at the very best to be told I WILL use certain words and that if I do not use the words or language as mandated to me then I can expect one or more of many negative consequences to come my way. I can understand why it is preferable that some words are NOT used in public speech (but again, I don’t agree with it being illegal, unless it incites violence), but I refuse and find it an affront to my person to be told which words I MUST use and in which context. Let Group A use all the words they like, and let Group B use the words they like, but neither Group or Group B should be compelled to use the words as set out by the other. |
The big issue with your first paragraph is that harm and rights are relative. The whole reason Group A is "compelling" speech, is because they view the alternative as harmful. It's harmful to a subgroup of people who don't have their identities respected. And you may disagree that it's harmful, but it's also absurd to think that "suggesting that people respect pronoun use" is harmful. Who is making it illegal? |
If you’re compelling people to use language that you want them to, there is no “suggestion”. Suggesting is not a problem; a suggestion can be accepted or rejected. “Suggesting” someone use the words you mandate or else they will be fired, or fined, or imprisoned, isn’t a “suggestion” at all.
