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Imaginedvl on 20 August 2024
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konnichiwa said:
EpicRandy said:

MS is not competing with Sony on pure console market share and has not been for a long time. The exclusive strategy they are using is not in the hope that their consoles will somehow pick up but rather to give them more success over what they now view as a better metric (MAU, Subscription service growth, and ROI).

And on those fronts, MS is already besting Sony quite substantially in fact, that's why their change in strategy is not immediate and drastic but slow and gradual. They have a winning strategy for the metrics they deem best and they want to make sure their shift produces an overall measurable positive impact. 

Thats also what makes it kind of annoying and an excuse because it implies 'doing bad with xbox hardware is okay because MS is aiming higher than doing well in the console market' but I would argue that Sony is also not competing for just some pure console market share and that they understand that having an attractive platform in the console market can lead to also great market share in other markets.

Based on it I have some questions.

1) Do you agree that Sony is not just competing in the console hardware market but in other gaming related markets aswell? If you disagree can you explain why? Because it seems obvious that Sony is also creating a pillar in the PC gaming market and had a ton of new PSN accounts created on PC.

2) If you agree that Sony is not just competing in the console market then why is it okay that MS is creating/created the least attractive console for gamers/consumers/Media/Developpers/retail etc and how will it be beneficial for the other markets they compete in?

I agree with that releasing games like Sea of Thieves/Indiana Jones/Grounded etc on Sony's platform is good for MS but it is BEST for Sony, having those games will increase sales, increase PSN Accounts, Increase PSN subscriptions, Increase confidence in Gamers and Devs to support for future Sony Platforms in the handheld/Console/PC/Mobile markets in the future...

Let's go point by point (in short, I'm afraid I have to disagree with all :D), but your points are fair.

1 - Yes, Sony is competing ONLY in the console market (and I count PSN as a console add-on at the end; without the console, people would not buy it). Sony is doing so much to keep everything first on the console and the Play Station 5 is their bread and butter. Their PC side of the thing is a joke, to be honest. Even third parties they are publishing like Helldivers 2, requires a PSN account but no synch, nothing, this is not their strategy right now. They are pushing for the console mainly (even if their PR says otherwise sometimes). And as they have no service like GamePass (Windows Store); gamers need to buy the game AGAIN, on PC.
Or Sony paying exclusives for console and still pay for timed on PC. Console is definitely the main focus for them.

2— I disagree with the first point so: Microsoft is besting Sony on the PC side (or publishing in general).

3 - I disagree greatly with that: "BEST for Sony." Other than the 30%, the rest is not true. Sony will not increase PSN subscriptions because Microsoft is publishing those games there. Overall, selling games on Play Station suits both, but it will benefit Microsoft more.

Wh do you think that having Xbox games on Play Station will increase PSN subscriptions or have any other impact on Sony's marketshare? 

Last edited by Imaginedvl - on 20 August 2024