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Ryuu96 on 19 August 2024
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Can someone explain the end game thought process for this incursion into Russia. It's and embarrassment for Russia, and morale booster for Ukraine, which is all great but I am not sure what will happen in the months to come.

Does Ukraine plan to hold the territory? Are they hoping troops will be forced to move to counter the Ukrainian offensive which could provide an opening in Ukraine? Is this just to weaken Russia, destroy assets, but ultimately will result with a retreat?

Nobody knows, Ukraine didn't even tell America, Lol.

Short term - Major embarrassment to Russia, a lot of valuable equipment captured, a shit ton of soldiers captured (in the hundreds) and these soldiers have a lot of fresh young conscripts in them making them more valuable for future prisoner swaps, these are soldiers that Russia promised wouldn't enter the war and now they're all prisoners of war, a huge morale boost for Ukrainian soldiers, finally achieving a major win.

Long term - If they plan on holding the territory it puts Ukraine in a stronger negotiating position if anyone (like America aka Trump) tries to force them into negotiations because Ukraine can then say they'll give up Kursk in exchange for their land or they'll keep Kursk if Russia keeps Donbas. Hoping that Russia will rotate troops away from Donbas to Kursk to relieve pressure there, a lot easier for Ukraine to take Russian territory it seems than charge headfirst into artillery and minefields.

Even if Ukraine eventually leaves, as long as they do an orderly retreat I would say it was a success, the only way I can see this turning bad for Ukraine is if they somehow get caught in a trap by Russia and can't do an orderly retreat back across the border, I.E. If Ukraine gets somehow encircled...But Ukraine is blowing bridges and doing the encircling right now.

? - Another benefit is that it has shown how utterly pathetic and non-existence Russia's redlines are, at least to anyone with a brain, seemingly hasn't got through to America yet, this only turns into a benefit if the West realises this and lifts the restrictions...Right now it's a ? because while it has proven to us Russia is all talk, it's only useful if there's actual action that can be performed from it, such as the lifting of long-range weapon restrictions.