sundin13 said:
Biden is markedly different from Trump. He has been central in the push to get aid into Gaza. Even before this war, when Trump was President, Trump halted humanitarian aid into Gaza. One of the first things Biden did as President was restore that aid. As the war went on, repeatedly, funding was provided for humanitarian aid due to the pressure from Democrats which was resisted by Republicans. These millions of dollars of aid simply would not have come if Trump had his way. Gaza is already struggling under a food crisis. Allowing Trump to gain power would objectively make that worse. Biden also was central to efforts to get this aid into Gaza, taking actions such as Air Dropping aid and negotiating to allow aid to enter through Israel controlled border checkpoints. As far as actual military support of Israel, I personally would like Biden to go further in resisting Israel's killing of innocent civilians. That said, they have pushed back publicly against some of the actions of Israel and have withheld certain munitions and threatened to withhold additional munitions if a certain red line were to be crossed. We can also look further into Trump's presidency to see some of the more controversial actions he had taken, which likely wouldn't have happened under Democratic leadership. Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, both very controversial actions which inflamed tensions. Further, Trump officially recognized the Golan Heights as part of Israel. Golan Heights is disputed territory which is illegally being settled by Israel in violation of international law. One of these settlements was named "Trump Heights" in acknowledgement on Donald Trump. I'm not doing this BS where you say nothing and keep demanding more from me. I'm too old for this shit. You argued that the two are identical and you don't seem to care about evidence plainly demonstrating that they aren't because you still don't like how either of them handled the situation. That criticism is fair (again, it is a criticism of Biden and not of Kamala), but it doesn't make the two identical. |
calm down lol. I am trying to meet you where you’re at. You are not successfully conveying yourself (otherwise I would be where you’re at), so I’m only left guessing here. Maybe try to reword your original statement?, and explicitly stating what your points are. My takeaway is that you are stating that Biden has passed policies which appear in favor of Gaza, whereas Trump has done the opposite. Is this correct? My response is thereby that I agree Trump hasn’t done good, but I counter by arguing that Biden hasn’t done good either actually. I then provide links to evidence showcasing how Biden hasn’t been as charitable as your cherry-picked examples might convey. Where am I missing the mark? Also, we were talking about Kamala, not Biden. I said in my OP that Kamala is not Biden, nor have I argued that her contribution to the Gaza situation under Biden should be accounted for (even though it should…regardless). I have only talked about what Kamala has done, who all she has been speaking with, what donor and establishment endorsements may signal in her policy, etc. I’m confused by the tangent you’re going off on. Why are we even talking about Biden? Can you explain that?
