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Ryuu96 on 28 July 2024
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shavenferret said:
Ryuu96 said:

This is according to Mike Pompeo who is just theorising, meanwhile Orban has straight up said that Trump told him he won't give a single penny to Ukraine and that's how he will end the war and Orban has zero reason to lie.

He thinks Trump cares for NATO...Meanwhile Trump talks shit about NATO at every single opportunity he gets. He thinks Trump can't abandon allies because it would look bad, where was he during Trump's term when Donald Trump straight up abandoned the Kurds? The war doesn't end by simply lifting the restrictions on Ukraine either, the war will still go on for years, Trump won't like that, the fastest way to end the war (which is what Trump wants) would be to stop supporting Ukraine because they'd lose and have to be forced into capitulation.

Pompeo is delusional and ignoring everything Trump has said over the past years and even done during his presidency.

Pompeo thinks America should Lend-Lease to Ukraine...Aka straddle Ukraine with hundreds of billions in debt that they would never be able to repay, Lend-Lease was already approved by Biden but it was never used because it was the last resort option, it should never be used if the current method of sending Ukraine weapons is available, Ukraine is not UK...Course if there was no other option I'd go with Lend-Lease but it's not something I want if we can avoid it and we can, for now.

hmmm, interesting.  Thanks for commenting.

I hate Orban but I trust him here more than Pompeo because like...why would he lie? Lol. Orban is friends with Trump, he is friends with Putin, he dislikes Ukraine. He has no reason to spread a lie like this which could be potentially damaging to Trump.

Remember Trump hates Ukraine on a personal level too because they didn't help him get dirt on the Bidens and his attempts to blackmail them led to his impeachment. He withheld military aid to Ukraine during this time, did Pompeo forget about that? Personally, I go on Trump's own words and actions than Pompeo's speculation and there's not a single thing Trump has said or done that leads me to believe he will support Ukraine. Multiple times in his rallies he has shit talked Ukraine too, about how Zelenskyy is personally collecting billions from America, his fanbase has been turned against Ukraine precisely because of his words. He has chosen a VP who has said multiple times he wants to stop Ukraine aid too.