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Tico said:
Ryuu96 said:

Maybe Poland would have sent troops into Ukraine if it got that dire. Have my doubts that Western Europe and America would follow them after everything I've seen, America + Germany very much expected Ukraine to fall in days and tried to evacuate Zelenskyy. Western Europe + America doesn't realise we're already at war with Russia, it may not be a conventional one where Russia is firing bullets at us, it's more of a hybrid one but this pathetic weakness on display by those in America and Western Europe will slowly walk us into a conventional one.

There's no excuse for the restrictions on Ukraine, there's no excuse for Germany's Taurus position and some European countries CAN send a lot more than they are and do a lot more than they are, if it is true that China poses no threat to Europe and only Russia does then logic says we should send Ukraine whatever they need to defeat Russia even if it makes us a little vulnerable because at the end of the day if Russia is defeated, it won't matter if we're a little vulnerable. Some countries realise that, such as those in the Nordics, Baltics, Eastern Europe. Those in Western Europe don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LON613xqb60

Say what:

When the Cold War ended, some politicians believed that there would be no more wars, that there would only be small conflicts, but no more wars. But the other party has always been clear that wars exist and that we have to live through one because we have been at peace for a long time.

He says war with Morocco is inevitable, the only unknown is when. And he says we are deploying troops to Latvia, but we were just one step away from deploying them to Ukraine.

He doesn't say this, but I say it to clarify:

The Moroccans believe that Spain is theirs and that we have taken it from them. The country that Moroccans hate the most is Spain. The war with these people is inevitable, what we don't know is when it will start.

We Europeans deliver 80% of all our ammunition production to Ukraine. And the one we agreed to sell, we are trying to buy back to send it to Ukraine.

And the Czech initiative is surely the European nations that are emptying their warehouses but do not want it to be known.

They've been plenty of wars since the Cold War though, a few which European countries have been involved in but not war between two nuclear holding countries or a World War. The current issue is Western Europe is absolutely terrified at the prospect of a war with a nuclear holding country and one that can actually fight back, it's one thing to aerial bomb the shit out of Afghanistan and another to do it to Russia. Spain has had troops in Latvia since 2017. We've increased the amount of troops on the Eastern Flank though for obvious reasons.

Actions speak louder than words, the fact is America expected Kyiv to fall within 72 hours and tried to get Zelenskyy out of the country, that would have essentially been Ukraine falling, Germany didn't even believe an invasion was happening, it took days for us to decide to send weapons and it took months for us to decide to send MBTs, then months for Long-Range Missiles, then months for Jets. We point blank refused a no-fly zone over Ukraine at the time and Kyiv was almost encircled and we still did nothing. Germany still refuses to send Taurus and US/UK/France refuse to lift utterly idiotic military restrictions on Ukraine to hit airfields in Russia. Spain and Italy send next to nothing.

How can you see these events and believe that the West was about to send troops into Ukraine? I'll be a bit fair, I think there is possibly a scenario where Poland/Baltics say "fuck it" and send troops into Ukraine together but UK/US/France/Germany have consistently shown cowardice to do the right thing and Italy/Spain are irrelevant to the conversation, I want to be proven wrong, but I keep being disappointed, specifically about Western Europe + America but the issue is without these guys, the rest of Europe is unlikely to do anything without them.

The Baltics, Nordics, Eastern Europe are the only ones I can say are really clearing their stocks for Ukraine. France for a period straight up refused to let EU buy artillery for Ukraine outside of Europe, the Czech initiative is anonymous donations and actually in fact it has been reported that many of the countries involved are Russian-friendly countries outside of Europe.

Czech Republic essentially confirmed this, Czech officials said that the country's post-Soviet past was an advantage in acquiring ammo, they have a significant arms industry with global customers and good relations with many countries in the Global South with large stockpiles of Soviet-era weapons and the ability to produce more, essentially Czech is more trusted by the Global South than America/Western Europe.