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Tico said:
Ryuu96 said:

Kills me inside when Ukraine says "we don’t ask the US and other partners to fight for us. We don’t ask for their boots on the ground. The only thing we ask for is sufficient support" and it feels like Ukraine doesn't even get that.

In an interview with my country's former chief of defense staff, he said that we were one step away from going to war with Russia because we Europeans are more concerned about the Russian threat than about China. But Ukraine held on. And the operation was ruled out.

The only thing Putin has done well was not winning the war. Because if he had won it, then he would have war with us.

Maybe Poland would have sent troops into Ukraine if it got that dire. Have my doubts that Western Europe and America would follow them after everything I've seen, America + Germany very much expected Ukraine to fall in days and tried to evacuate Zelenskyy. Western Europe + America doesn't realise we're already at war with Russia, it may not be a conventional one where Russia is firing bullets at us, it's more of a hybrid one but this pathetic weakness on display by those in America and Western Europe will slowly walk us into a conventional one.

There's no excuse for the restrictions on Ukraine, there's no excuse for Germany's Taurus position and some European countries CAN send a lot more than they are and do a lot more than they are, if it is true that China poses no threat to Europe and only Russia does then logic says we should send Ukraine whatever they need to defeat Russia even if it makes us a little vulnerable because at the end of the day if Russia is defeated, it won't matter if we're a little vulnerable. Some countries realise that, such as those in the Nordics, Baltics, Eastern Europe. Those in Western Europe don't.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 13 July 2024