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Cobretti2 said:

You're looking at the good in people and I admire that as there are genuine scenarios out there. I have no problem with women staying home for the right reasons if there is other family support there to look after that family. If cost of living wasn't so high I am sure most families would do the same, one work one stay home.

But the guy in this thread called women selfish if they want to work to provide for their family or have a career. In essence you can still have children and send them to day care. The man can also be the stay at home parent after the baby does not need the tit no more, so is he being selfish to want a woman to stay home for the next 10-15 years breading and him go off to work and build a career? 

The people I am talking about are the ones who play the system and actually use verbal language to put down their own children.

i.e. both mother and father don't work, or a single mother who has kids with 6 men, all saying "I don't want to work the government will provide for me".

When their kids try to get out of that life style they say things like "You are the black sheep of the family", "Why you trying harder no need to work government gives us a wage" constant negative language, instead of encouraging them to do better. I've even got into arguments with parents like that when they trying to bring their kids bac down to their standard of living as a lot of them are actually smart just are made to feel useless. 

Ah gotcha. Unfortunately those playing the system ruin it for everyone.

A no longer school friend of my wife is one of them. She first dumped her 3rd kid on the father (2nd husband) after she left him, now wants custody again only for the government assistance as he's a special needs kid, extra money. She's only making it worse for him, completely changing his living environment again. (And she's one to take her frustrations out on her kids as well, ugly)

Her parents left her after she got pregnant as a teenager (moved to the other side of the country) and my wife's parents pretty much filled in for many years. (They still 'babysit' her special needs kid, best friends with our youngest, similar age)

Now she's a grandmother already (kid from teenage pregnancy) That's kinda of a problem. Mistakes reproduce faster with more off spring than more responsible adults :/ Hopefully her son does better at raising his kid(s) instead of continuing the cycle.

And agreed, parents that put their kids down because their own life sucks / can't get their own life together should not have kids in the first place.



Anyway lot of derailment :)

The real issue is between 2 dysfunctional presidential candidates :/

Enough with the age stuff

https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/biden-harris-administration-announces-47-million-new-funding-support-school-infrastructure-investments

https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/three-years-bidens-american-rescue-plan-buoys-millions-students-and-educators

This is what will help provide better lives for all kids.

Not this

https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/what-the-2024-gop-platform-says-about-k-12-and-what-it-would-mean-if-trump-wins/2024/07