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RolStoppable said:
BFR said:

Rol, you are wrong calling all Republicans as MAGA.  All anyone has to do is look at the House vote on the $61b aid package to Ukraine.  Republicans voted 111-100 against the aid bill, while 210 Democrats voted for it in unison. Clearly, the Republican party is divided into 2 factions today:

Reagan Republicans vs.  MAGA Republicans

Reagan republicans are clearly on the losing side of this battle within their party and it will only get worse for them if Trump wins the election. They'll be forced out and replaced by people who fall in line.

As for your two points at the end, a run-off is the typical procedure if no candidate can attain the majority of votes, and a run-off is held within weeks of the first round; I don't see the problem here, because this is common practice in many European countries. The concessions that would be forced by indies would be less severe than what dems force on repubs and vice versa.

I get the impression that the main problem of many registered republicans is that they feel obliged to vote republican for all of their life. So now the Reagan republicans feel kinda lost in this MAGA era.

Based on my research, I found that the US cannot have a runoff election, from Reddit:

"The US already has a system for holding a runoff election for POTUS and it is written into the federal constitution. If the Electoral College does not award the 270 majority to any candidate, the three candidates with the greatest number of EC votes are placed before the House of Representatives. The House then votes by state (1 vote per state) to determine the winner. This was used a few times in the 19th century. I’m not aware of it being used in the 20th century."
As a declared Reagan Republican (RR), I have no fear of a new Trump presidency. He won in 2016 and we weren't forced out then, and we won't be again if he happens to win in 2024. We will outlast him. Which means we will bite our tongues and keep to the shadows until his reign ends.
AND Trump's reign will end soon, and so will the reign of MAGA Republicans (MR). There is no successor to Trump to lead the MR movement.  When his political career is over, so ends MAGA.
So, best case scenario, MAGA and Trump go away this Nov.. Worst case scenario, they both go away in Jan 2029.  Either way, I don't care as long as MAGA dies.
One more thing, Rol, yes, I have been a Republican all my life, that being said, can you tell me why I voted for Al Gore in 2000?
Final thoughts:
Reagan's legacy will outlast and outshine Trump's legacy:
Reagan - won the Cold War and defeated the Soviet Union
Trump - got impeached twice and half built a wall on the Mexico border

I apologize to all for this fucked up formatting, it looks fine before I submit it. WTF ?

Last edited by BFR - 5 days ago