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Chrkeller said:
zorg1000 said:

The other issue with a 3rd party/independent President is who is their coalition in Congress?

Let’s say after the debate a whole bunch of people went “I’m not voting for a whining criminal or a senile old manâ€Â and RFK all of a sudden becomes the front runner and wins.

It’s not like there is an army of RFK supporters running in the House or Senate elections so it’s still going to be a Democrat, Republican or split Congress.

Does he magically form a coalition of roughly half of each party and enact an agenda? If Democrats control both chambers does he support their progressive agenda? If Republicans control both chambers does he support their conservative agenda? If the chambers are split does he become a master negotiator and get bipartisan legislation passed?

My 3rd party idea isn't just white house.  It would include all levels including state and local.  Someone like Liz Cheney could be a good add. 

I understand that and it might sound good but I can’t see it happening with our first past the post setup, you’re still going to see like 95% of House/Senate members being either Republican or Democrat.

Also, Cheney is far from a centrist, she was a rank & file Republican who couldn’t support an insurrection. I respect the fact that she stood up to Trump and believes in democracy but we need to stop painting people firmly on the right as centrists/moderates just because they aren’t as far to the right as others.



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