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pokoko said:
zorg1000 said:

It has nothing to do with you “seeing things differently” it’s about you and Pokoko making bold claims without providing any data or examples to back them up.

Sorry that I said you don’t know what you’re talking about but I gave like 30 examples of things that either directly or indirectly benefit working class Americans and instead of providing any counterpoints, you get offended by a very mild slight which just reinforces my opinion that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I mean, all you have to do is google.

"State of play: Biden's poll numbers have been rising lately, but several surveys have indicated he is underperforming with non-white voters without college degrees — a constituency that has long been overwhelmingly Democratic.

A YouGov poll commissioned by the Progressive Policy Institute at the end of 2023 found that working-class voters overwhelmingly believe they're worse off today than similar voters did 40 years ago.
Voters said they trusted the GOP more than Democrats on the economy, immigration, and education — a dramatic shift from past elections.

Zoom in: Among Latinos, Republicans also now have an edge over Democrats when it comes to dealing with the economy, according to an April Axios-Ipsos Latino Poll in partnership with Noticias Telemundo."  --  https://www.axios.com/2024/05/11/working-class-latino-black-voters-biden-trump

"1. Across the battleground, Biden is losing to Trump among working-class voters by 16 points. That compares to Biden’s national working-class deficit of just 4 points in 2020. It’s also slightly worse than Biden’s performance in last October’s Times poll which covered the same states, when he was behind among these voters by 15 points."  --  https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-working-class-sized-hole-in-democratic

There are DOZENS of articles about this.  Do you really think I'm joking?

I know that he does poorly in the polls and Democrats have been losing blue collar voters for quite a while, but that has literally nothing to do with your original statements.

“it's about people turning against the extremism of the Left.”

The Left essentially ignores people who didn't go to college but aren't unemployed and don't center their identity around some type of minority status. If you're in the lower middle then you don't really exist UNTIL election time, then the liberal media starts obsessing over "non-college voters" like some breed of vermin.”

most do not focus on the issues that are important to the working class as a group”



If you said that Democrats are bad at messaging and middle class Americans feel ignored than I would agree with you but you said the left is extreme and ignores people who didn’t go to college or are part of a minority group, that is just simply not true.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.