HebrewGamer said:
Phenomajp13 said:
Dude what? I see you clearly don't understand how this works. I know the difference between sell in and sellthrough but you don't understand how ridiculous your stance is. Sell in or shipped or sold is what matters to Sony because it's when Sony gets paid. Obviously every unit of hardware or software needs to be shipped (sell in) to a retailer to eventually be sold to consumers (sellthrough). Sellthrough matters to a retailer because its when the retailer makes their money (from the consumer). Sellthrough also determines whether the retailer needs to order more from Sony which equates to more shipments from Sony. If something isn't selling (sellthrough) then the retailer isnt going to order more (shipments from Sony). This stuff isn't free, these retailers are buying the inventory from Sony which is why sell-in/sold/shipped matters to Sony, because they are getting paid from the retailer. Sellthrough matters to retailers because it determines when they make their money. Of course I'm not saying sellthrough is irrelevant to Sony because obviously a high sellthrough means higher shipments or you know more sales for Sony. Did you not notice Sony has sell in for software and hardware in my link? Everything has to be sell in or shipped or sold which ever term you prefer. Sellthrough is only mentioned as more points of data along with being easier to track for hardware because there are much less hardware to track. Software doesnt have a sellthrough figure because software is sold in the multi millions making it more difficult to track. Sellthrough figures are mostly estimates while sell-in are perfectly tracked because Sony certainly knows how many consoles they have manufactured and shipped and software they print and ship. It seems like you are suggesting the 1.5 billion is shipped and the 1.2 billion is sellthrough? I hope that's not what you are suggesting for a console that has been dead for over a decade. Why would any retailer still have new inventory for PS2? Retailers would have certainly done something after all these years to sell it to consumers such as software price cuts or bundles. Retailers don't just sit on inventory especially after all these years for a dead console. All of the PS2 software that Sony shipped has certainly been sold by now and regardless that isn't Sony's issue. Sony already made their money from that software. Also lol at you using a link from wiki but trying to downplay my link from Sony. That link from wiki is just an achieved screenshot of Sony's site showing data from 2007. My link is from Sony's site with the most up to date data for PS2. |
You're simply wrong buddy. A shipment to a retailer does not equal a sale to the customer. It's why the wiki page says there's overlap between the 1.24B and the 297m. A shipment and a sale are not the same...Sorry. You lost the point man, just admit you were wrong and move on. |
Omg, so we should believe wikipedia lol. Yes bro shipments do equal sales because that's all what Sony cares about and eventually nearly every piece of software is sold to consumers due to the various different ways for retailers to get rid of inventory. Please tell us where all that software for the PS2 is hiding in 2024? What overlap is wiki even talking about and why in the world do you believe it?
