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HebrewGamer said:
Phenomajp13 said:

@HebrewGamer

https://sonyinteractive.com/en/our-company/business-data-sales/

Straight from Sony's website it has officially shipped/sold 1.537 billion units of software as of March 31, 2012. Where is this 1.24 billion coming from?

PS2 wasn't officially discontinued until December 2012/January 2013 hardware wise which means the hardware and software are both higher but we don't know how high. 

Sorry buddy, but If you look at your source again it says for software "sell-in" and for hardware it says "sell-through"

sell-in = Units delivered to retailers = shipments

sell-through = units sold to end user/customer = sales

The 1537 cumulative shipments could very well be inaccurate but Sony wouldn't be the first nor the last company to inflate numbers using shipments instead of sales.

Good effort though.

Dude what? I see you clearly don't understand how this works. I know the difference between sell in and sellthrough but you don't understand how ridiculous your stance is.

Sell in or shipped or sold is what matters to Sony because it's when Sony gets paid. Obviously every unit of hardware or software needs to be shipped (sell in) to a retailer to eventually be sold to consumers (sellthrough). Sellthrough matters to a retailer because its when the retailer makes their money (from the consumer). Sellthrough also determines whether the retailer needs to order more from Sony which equates to more shipments from Sony. If something isn't selling (sellthrough) then the retailer isnt going to order more (shipments from Sony). This stuff isn't free, these retailers are buying the inventory from Sony which is why sell-in/sold/shipped matters to Sony, because they are getting paid from the retailer. Sellthrough matters to retailers because it determines when they make their money. Of course I'm not saying sellthrough is irrelevant to Sony because obviously a high sellthrough means higher shipments or you know more sales for Sony.

Did you not notice Sony has sell in for software and hardware in my link? Everything has to be sell in or shipped or sold which ever term you prefer. Sellthrough is only mentioned as more points of data along with being easier to track for hardware because there are much less hardware to track. Software doesnt have a sellthrough figure because software is sold in the multi millions making it more difficult to track. Sellthrough figures are mostly estimates while sell-in are perfectly tracked because Sony certainly knows how many consoles they have manufactured and shipped and software they print and ship.

It seems like you are suggesting the 1.5 billion is shipped and the 1.2 billion is sellthrough? I hope that's not what you are suggesting for a console that has been dead for over a decade. Why would any retailer still have new inventory for PS2? Retailers would have certainly done something after all these years to sell it to consumers such as software price cuts or bundles. Retailers don't just sit on inventory especially after all these years for a dead console. All of the PS2 software that Sony shipped has certainly been sold by now and regardless that isn't Sony's issue. Sony already made their money from that software. Also lol at you using a link from wiki but trying to downplay my link from Sony. That link from wiki is just an achieved screenshot of Sony's site showing data from 2007. My link is from Sony's site with the most up to date data for PS2.