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hinch said:

JEMC said:

We'll see how much difference there is between the 7800X3D and the new "plain" 9000 series. The 5800X3D was also technically faster than the 7000 chips, but the difference was small in most cases, and sometimes it was even slower by a small margin.

But yeah, if you're mostly interested in gaming, waiting for the X3D parts makes more sense.

The biggest differientitor for gaming performance was moving from DDR4 to DDR5 - AM4 to 5. And probably why the 7000 non X3D was on par or faster in some cases than 5800X3D. That and the clock speed+IPC increases.  On Zen 5 the same clock speeds and marginal IPC, won't make up for the massive cache in the 7800X3D.

But yeah, I'd expect another 15-20% increase over current X3D for the 9800X3D , on average.

Zen 5 has doubled the size of the L1 & L2 caches so, while not as muchas the monstruous L3 increase that the X3D chips bring, it will help. And a ∼15% IPC improvement isn't something I'd call marginal.

Also, while the faster transfer rates of DDR5 help, it also brings increased latency compared to DDR4, and Zen is almost as sensitive to latency as it is to speed.

And, regarding the upcoming 9000X3D chips, AMD said it's been "'working actively on really cool differentiators' to make the next generation of 3D V-cache 'even better'" (source: PCGamer), whatever that may be (besides a reason to make them more expensive than usual given their popularity).

On another note, you haven't had your first OLED monitor yet and you're already upgrading? Man, take it easy!
Just kidding, I hope you enjoy it.