| Soundwave said: Sorry but I don't agree with your points or general hardware philosophy. |
So you don't agree with the evidence presented either? Then hows about you present better evidence? Otherwise we can just factually conclude you are wrong on all accounts for failing to do so.
| Soundwave said: But if you want a cold hard metric on it, the sales don't lie, people that think like you are a small minority on message boards that make a lot of noise but aren't showing up to buy games in any big number. If that wasn't true, there are now several "graphics showcase" type titles this gen that have sold underwhelming numbers. |
Steam makes billions every year. We are not a small number. Don't propagate false information.
Many Nintendo exclusives sell in underwhelming numbers as well, but their development can still be justified as it helps build-out an entire ecosystem.
Case in point, Metroid is a fairly small I.P. Yet if it can accrue a million customers to the platform, those million customers will likely invest in other titles as well, making it a net-win.
| Soundwave said: The tech doesn't matter to begin with when the business model is falling apart. |
The PC business model is not falling apart.
People have been making blatantly false proclamations for literally decades that the PC is dying.
Console gaming is also not falling apart, Microsoft and Sony still make a ton of money.
| Soundwave said: Whole lot of talk, not a lot of actual sales going on here which indicates an industry that is headed in a much different direction, it's like sitting on a movie board and having a small bunch of people talk on and on about CGI quality when the fact is the average movie goer doesn't give a fuck about CGI quality in 2024, it's not 1996 anymore where that meant a lot. |
The industry has matured. And there are sales.
However you are shifting the goal post yet again.
When are you going to stop engaging in logical fallacies and actually start forming a coherent, logical argument laden with appropriate evidence to backup your claims?
| Soundwave said: That's not "PC gamer", there are tons of PC gamers with low end rigs and tons of PC gamers that don't give a shit about graphics. |
YOU NEED TO STOP LYING.
The evidence has already been provided where the majority of PC gamers are NOT using low-end hardware.
You need to start accepting that fact, because it is actually fact.
| Soundwave said: Like I can use a fairly easy analogy here ... 4KTV's are the majority (vast majority) of TV sales today. That must mean people care about the highest picture quality possible and 4K video content ... right? Why buy a 4KTV to replace a 1080p one? And by extension that would mean good things for enthusiast formats like 4K Blu-Ray. Makes perfect sense. Except the reality isn't working like that at all. What we see is the exact opposite happening, people are fine with their cable TV still broadcasting in ancient compressed 720p, they just blast that onto their 4K 70 inch screen without a second thought. The majority of Netflix customers subscribe to the non 4K tier. 4K Blu Ray sales have tanked as 4K TV adoption has gone up, even though 4K Blu-Ray is the best quality of 4K content available. Why? Because you have to look at several factors (for one, you can't even buy non-4K sets that easily anymore and if you can the price difference to a 4K one is negligible, same as trying to hunt down like a GTX 1060 Ti or some shit ... you might as well just buy a RTX 3060). It's hard to even buy a non-4K TV. |
Your analogy doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
Streaming is the majority of where our video comes from in 2024 and often they are 4k.
https://www.nielsen.com/insights/2023/streaming-grabs-a-record-38-7-of-total-tv-usage-in-july-with-acquired-titles-outpacing-new-originals/
However... 4k Panels can also upscale lower-definition content.
However, 4k isn't just to benefit only 4k content.
The Xbox One X, Playstation 4 Pro, Xbox Series S, Xbox Series X, Playstation 5 can all display content that is above 1080P (I.E. 1440P) and thus has benefits on a 4k panel verses a 1080P panel.
This entire thread you have literally failed to provide evidence or indisputable facts.
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