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Ryuu96 on 17 May 2024
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firebush03 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Also, you forgot about Zorg, I'll remind you of his question which you also conveniently ignored after making a statement about something broad but then only focusing on a singular issue.

"How are they the same in regards to healthcare, abortion, immigration, infrastructure, climate change, crime, LGBT rights, voting rights, gun safety, childcare, student loans, marijuana legalization, labor rights, housing, tax policy, etc?"

Ryuu, I’ll get back to this tomorrow. Got distracted today. I can go into it, and very in-depth as well. Just give me a minutes, it’s late and I wanna sleep.

p.s. keep dismissing all points I make as Russian propaganda, and I’ll continue to view you as being willfully ignorant. I’ll have stuff tomorrow, just slipped my mind today.

Keep parroting Putin's excuses and I'll keep accusing you of spreading Russian propaganda

You in this thread said that NATO is to blame for Russia invading and that we should stop supporting Ukraine. What a coincidence, exactly what Russia says (among their thousand of other excuses) and exactly what Russia (the aggressor/invading country) wants, for us to give up on Ukraine so Russia can more easily takeover the rest of it. This is what happens when "America bad" is the entire basis of peoples foreign policy.

Guys like you think that Ukraine has no agency, neither do Poland, Czech Republic, Finland, The Baltics, Romania, etc. Your American arrogance has you believe that they're brainless idiots controlled by America and they don't deserve their own agency. Ukraine has the right as an independent country to want to join NATO (a defensive organisation), especially since they've been attacked by their neighbour for the past 10 years.

I'm sure it brings you comfort to know that Ukraine cannot currently join NATO though, as it is in an active conflict with Russia, nor could Ukraine have joined NATO in the past 10 years as they were in an active conflict with Russia (Donbas/Crimea - Exactly as engineered by Russia) nor could Ukraine join NATO before that as France/Germany rejected the idea, despite what America wanted at the time.

I'm pretty sure that guys like you don't understand the purpose of NATO at all, your "America bad" and American arrogance has led you to believe that America is the sole controller of NATO, you see that America is a part of NATO and instantly recoil in terror, would we be having the same conversations if todays conflict was happening but America wasn't a part of NATO? Probably not.

I don't even think you knew that every single country has to vote YES for another country joining.

NATO is about primarily protecting Europe and there's not a single country that has ever left it despite them being free to do so meanwhile there's a lot of countries who couldn't wait to get away sooner from the Soviet Union and even now countries in Russia's CSTO distancing themselves from Russia, I wonder why so many countries hate Russia...Ah...America! Of course!

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 17 May 2024